http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Do I need a magician to replace rear cassette? en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:56:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32172 Thu, 26 May 2011 09:03:35 +0000 steveo 32172@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think my chain whip came from my old Sierra for changing the timing chain. Its fine for single speed but its too big and tends to make a meal of modern cassettes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32163 Thu, 26 May 2011 00:35:37 +0000 ruggtomcat 32163@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I <em>am</em> a magician and have never changed a cassette (on a bike) in my life!</p> <p>The best chain whip I saw was one made from a bit of steel and some chain, at home, for nothing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32158 Wed, 25 May 2011 21:45:06 +0000 Dave 32158@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have an Ice Toolz whip (£6.99 rrp) which does the job, plus the Shimano tool (but you can buy a serviceable Xtools one for £6.99 again). It's useful to have these two because it also enables you to replace drive side spokes if they break (this is actually why I originally bought mine).</p> <p>It was actually cheaper to buy the tools and replace the spoke than to have a shop do it, so it was an instant win. Since then I've probably used it at least 20 times in anger, so it's saved itself many times. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32151 Wed, 25 May 2011 19:52:50 +0000 Arellcat 32151@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I do have an Ice Toolz wrench for Mega Exo BB cups, and it seems like a well made thing, but the great majority of my tools are by Park. For cassette removal I use a Park chain whip in combination with a huge Bahco adjustable spanner. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32150 Wed, 25 May 2011 19:40:13 +0000 ExcitableBoy 32150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I managed to make a chain whip out of a bit of chain I was replacing at the same time as the cassette, screwed into a piece of wood lying around - worked fine. Worth a try if you've a piece of chain handy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32144 Wed, 25 May 2011 17:39:20 +0000 crowriver 32144@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well you could always order <a href="http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/38/53a2/ice-toolz-chain-whip---freewheel-turner.html">this chain whip</a> as a replacement. When it's back in stock... :p </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32142 Wed, 25 May 2011 16:13:32 +0000 chdot 32142@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Metal...<br /> Paint-coated metal...<br /> Paint...</p> <p>mmm </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32141 Wed, 25 May 2011 16:09:47 +0000 kaputnik 32141@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Metal...<br /> Plastic-coated metal...<br /> Plastic...</p> <p>Mine was inadequate for the sort of torque you often have to put into a chain whip... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32139 Wed, 25 May 2011 14:45:57 +0000 Smudge 32139@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mine is def a metal pin, it did take me a while to work out how I was supposed to use it though! :-o Fine once I worked out the technique.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32138 Wed, 25 May 2011 14:34:22 +0000 chdot 32138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"it relies on a plastic pin"</p> <p>I'm sure mine is metal - but it's not a great tool, just a bit of chain tacked (precariously) on to the headset spanner. </p> <p>Fortunately all the lockrings I've removed with haven't been on too tight. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32137 Wed, 25 May 2011 14:18:44 +0000 kaputnik 32137@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>They are in this </em></p> <p>The EBC chainwhip is not up to the task - it relies on a plastic pin to hold the length of chain onto the wrench, which inevitably bends, buckles, then snaps. Even if the pin wasn't so weak, it's not a convenient design.</p> <p>The lockring is alright. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32132 Wed, 25 May 2011 13:22:57 +0000 chdot 32132@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"and the new cassette"</p> <p><em>Some</em> shops (not saying any in Edinburgh) get sniffy when people turn up with stuff bought elsewhere... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32131 Wed, 25 May 2011 13:21:07 +0000 Smudge 32131@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I got the revolution tune up kit in a sale and so far it has been used to swap several cassettes without problems, (though I have managed to break the chain splitter, ok for me as I have a good quality one in the underseat bag anyway) it's a reasonable basic kit imho I wouldn't pay full price for it though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32129 Wed, 25 May 2011 13:17:53 +0000 Dave 32129@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you would like to try it without buying said tools, I have them at the flat and would be happy to advise.</p> <p>Alternatively I bet that the Bicycle Works will charge you considerably less than a fiver if you present them with the wheel and the new cassette - they only charged me £2 to remove my bottom bracket... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32127 Wed, 25 May 2011 12:38:00 +0000 Kim 32127@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have found that the chain whip that comes with the <a href="http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f_ProductID=6721&amp;f_FullProductVersion=1&amp;f_SortOrderID=1&amp;f_bct=">Revolution Tune Up Tool Kit</a> is easy to break and that getting my LBS to do it only cost a fiver (cheaper then buy a new tool)... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32126 Wed, 25 May 2011 12:28:58 +0000 Baldcyclist 32126@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks folks, looks like only minimal amounts of blood will result from doing this! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32125 Wed, 25 May 2011 12:19:00 +0000 Min 32125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I find changing a cassette pretty fiddly, however all you really need to do is follow the instructions and there is not much that can go wrong. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32124 Wed, 25 May 2011 12:13:14 +0000 crowriver 32124@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot <em>That looks quite good.</em></p> <p>I thought so too, which is why I bought it earlier this year... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32115 Wed, 25 May 2011 11:36:57 +0000 wingpig 32115@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The LIDL/Crivit set contains a few types of lockring tool and a chainwhip, is also £25 and might still be available. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32112 Wed, 25 May 2011 11:32:34 +0000 chdot 32112@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"this kit which is quite a bit cheaper than the EBC one..."</p> <p>That looks quite good.</p> <p>EBC one is quite often 'on sale' for about £25, which is a more reasonable price. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32110 Wed, 25 May 2011 11:29:20 +0000 crowriver 32110@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The tools are also available in <a href="http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/38/82f1/ice-toolz-essence-tool-kit.html">this kit</a> which is quite a bit cheaper than the EBC one... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32109 Wed, 25 May 2011 11:24:16 +0000 chdot 32109@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Oek25xKJ0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Oek25xKJ0</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32108 Wed, 25 May 2011 11:20:54 +0000 chdot 32108@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Is it easy to DIY replace a rear cassette?"</p> <p>Yes.</p> <p>If you have the (special) tools.</p> <p>Shimano HG cassette lockring tool, chain whip.</p> <p>They are in <a href="http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f_ProductID=6721&amp;f_FullProductVersion=1&amp;f_SortOrderID=1&amp;f_bct=">this</a> or available separately.</p> <p>(And a big spanner or vice.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3041#post-32107 Wed, 25 May 2011 11:12:11 +0000 Baldcyclist 32107@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is it easy to DIY replace a rear cassette? At the rate I go through them, it would probably be more economical to do myself if not too difficult.</p> <p>Ta in advance! </p>