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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Are we many?</title>
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<title>gembo on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;yeah but accordingto theposts the bridge is still Ok (well except for the £200m) maybe if restricted to buses and bikes it wont fall down ever?
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<title>Dave on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The worst thing about the bridges over the Forth is that there is no walkway / cycleway on the new one, so when (inevitably) they decide £200m is too much to keep the existing bridge in condition for the scruffs, there will no longer be any link between Fife and the Lothians (unless you want to risk trying to get on the 2-bikes-if-you're-lucky rail service).
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<title>crowriver on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@LaidBack &#60;em&#62;Actually the new Forth Bridge is another fine example of this . But unlike other transport projects it seems to attract funds...&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ah, but if you believe the spin, it's because the old bridge is about to fall down. Not true of course, and could be repaired for a relatively modest £200 million. In the meantime they could ban HGVs from the bridge to stop matters getting worse: there's always the new Kincardine bridge after all. But no, the SNP and the local councils on both sides of the Forth have decided to play 'spook the motorists' by spreading FUD about the old bridge to soften them up for a £2 billion (£5 billion when it's finished?) duplication of existing provision. I suppose the construction business needs the work, eh? Got to keep the civil engineering sector going so let's hit the taxpayer for a big one.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Allegedly the old bridge will be buses and cycles only once the additional one is complete. I'll believe that when I see it!
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<title>kaputnik on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;I suppose the trams also duplicate the busses &#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As Hitler says in the tram &#34;Downfall&#34; youtube video;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;em&#62;£500 million quid just to replace the number 22 bus? are they out of their tiny ****ing minds?&#60;/em&#62;&#34;
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<title>wee folding bike on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I suppose the trams also duplicate the busses and the current road bridge has issues.
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<title>LaidBack on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;WFB&#60;/strong&#62; &#60;em&#62;So... the train line goes from Waverley to Edinburgh Park train station and somebody thought it was a good idea to build a tram line which does the same thing?&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Duplication, it's the name of the game!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Actually the new Forth Bridge is another fine example of this . But unlike other transport projects it seems to attract funds...&#60;br /&#62;
Even Nick Clegg had to agree...
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<title>chdot on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Does this mean trams handle gradients better than trains do?&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yes&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.flickr.com/photos/allybeag/512737072/&#34;&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;img src=&#34;http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/512737072_5ed8920399.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's amazing how you can make The Mound look not steep.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(Glad the cobbles have been covered up!)&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/5807714437/in/photostream&#34;&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;img src=&#34;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3355/5807714437_42b180a6ab.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
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<title>Nelly on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;wfb - Ah well, if the trikes out, it will have to be one of those motability things (like the wee wifey had on the Irn Bru adverts) !
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<title>wee folding bike on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;My trike needs a good deal more gymnastics than a bike does. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I've never seen it down but I've heard that cornering tandem trikes sometimes require the riders to hang off the side so far that they hook their feet on the top tube. Solo trikes have a shorter triangle of stability.
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<title>Nelly on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ive been too busy putting mudguards on a bike to post. kaputnik, I did have some which suit the SS well, road testing tomorrow.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ps - a wee spider just spun a web between my head and the laptop screen - spooky or what ???&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;pps Gembo, thanks for the thoughts - dont worry about offending me with entendres, lets be honest the worst that can happen is I end up on a trike - think of the ways I can jazz it up !!
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<title>chdot on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@wfb&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;CEC should have had you as a consultant to point out the obvious.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(They wouldn't have listened, but at least you'd have got paid lots of money.)
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<title>wee folding bike on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;So... the train line goes from Waverley to Edinburgh Park train station and somebody thought it was a good idea to build a tram line which does the same thing?
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<title>kaputnik on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Tram spoiler - I &#34;think&#34; that none of the trams have gone to England - yet. But they have submitted a tender to Croydon Tramlink as one of their options for getting more trams.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They have been road tested on the Croydon system and last I read, all except the 1 tram under tarpaulin in Broxburn are being stored in the factory in Spain.
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<title>Stepdoh on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yup, some have been leased to the successful by many accounts croydon trams system.
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<title>wee folding bike on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I thought the trams had gone to England because they weren't needed here.
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<title>Stepdoh on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I can't remember the herring sandwich robot either. Must re-re-re-read although the last two res would only cover the first three books. #grabs new kindle in what is looking like it will be an expensive habit#&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;And by some strange coincidence my lock screen is covered in fish. Not sure if there are herring. There are no sandwiches.
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<title>cb on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Seen lots of new names popping up on the forum&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#38;gt;&#38;gt; to &#38;gt;&#38;gt;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Your brain has been programmed to forget about herring sandwich liking robots.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;...in 15 posts.  Not bad, not bad.
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<title>Min on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Your brain has been programmed to forget about herring sandwich liking robots.
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<title>cb on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Is that tram related or road related work at Gogar?&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That's tram related.  You were lucky and probably saw people actually working on it.  It's just been a static, coned-off mess for about six months, but they've started propping up shovels again recently.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They're putting in a tunnel for the trams to go through and another tunnel that you're not allowed to cycle through.&#60;br /&#62;
The road has been working remarkably well (for cars) despite the smaller amount of available tarmac.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Don't remember the herring sandwich robot.
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<title>Min on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I wasn't really being sarcastic but a combination of being on holiday and outside more seems the most likely explanation to me. As a summer forum lull expert (self proclaimed) I'm just a bit amused by it. On one particular forum (not this one) the summer lull is commented on by the same people each year as if it is something completely new. Reminds me a bit of the robot programmed to like herring sandwiches* in Mostly Harmless.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*For the uninitiated, the robot is programmed to like herring sandwiches but its herring sandwich scoop is set to drop any herring sandwich the robot picks up back to the ground. Therefore the robot finds itself stuck in a loop of locating a herring sandwich, thinking to itself &#34;ah, a herring sandwich, I like herring sandwiches&#34;, picking it up in its herring sandwich scoop and dropping it to the floor again, whereupon it sees it and thinks &#34;ah, a herring sandwich, I like herring sandwiches&#34;. Etc.
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<title>kaputnik on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>kaputnik</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;There was rumours of a Krispy kreme drive-through donut establishment going in there. Part of the SNPs drive for a healthier and more active nation.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;WFB you are right the big flyover is for the tram and the mess at Gogar is also for the tram. I say &#34;the tram&#34; because there is only one. It's in pieces in a yard in Broxburn though.
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<title>gembo on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;tram terminal at Gogar, nice flyover at E£dinburgh Park (I am leaving the mistyped £)) goes right past the window of Room 442 of the Novotel - bladerunner.  That structure north of the station just went up yesterday - an offfice?
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<title>wee folding bike on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>wee folding bike</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I was cycling in Edinburgh today but only just. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Edinburgh Park is a fairly horrible place.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Is that tram related or road related work at Gogar?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The tram ramp goes up and over the railway. Does this mean trams handle gradients better than trains do?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;SQA meeting at the Marriot. Took a Brompton S6L because I'd had to two two boys to school and then leave the trailer locked at the station. The S2L-X which I'd been meaning to use doesn't have space on the axle for a tow bar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Almost time to go pick up boys again but for half of the way back one of them will have to walk and I'll need to push the bike because I can't fit three of them in the trailer and we need to pick their wee brother from nursery on the way home.
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<title>gembo on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;ah, you referring to the slight twinge? I left that in there as a single entendre.  Then I read the arthritis string, sorry to hear Nelly's news and off to check the glucosamine I have just started on for Vit A thenks to (thenks - an Edinburgh expression?) Kimbo.  I am starting cod-liver oil too.  I think for nostalgia sakes a big smelly bottle.  I do wonder sometimes how much fish now eaten in supplements rather than from J Gowans Fishmonger's van.  Glucosamine is apparently shark cartilege. I await correction&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;All Hail to this forum
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<title>kaputnik on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Or not far enough up? :)
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<title>gembo on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;As we are forum navel gazing I would like to ask - Are we a tad too much up our own bahoochies on a small number of occasions?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just get a twinge sometimes&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Mostly top notch&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sometimes slight disregard for non-cyclists?  But of course very good to fly our flag too given the stuff we endure stoically.
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<title>gembo on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Is it because people are on holiday Min? [I may have missed your sarcasm, for instance - not strange at all unless you are including the I'M On My Holidays now forum getting quiet in the summer.] For the record I am being sarcastic. It is the lowest form of pond life I know.
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<title>Min on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Every forum I have ever been a member/reader of has become quiet during the summer months. Every year everybody wonders why it becomes quiet during the summer months. No-one ever comes up with a satisfactory explanation.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Strange but true. :-P
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<title>chdot on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;The Big Issue (used to have) a mission statement&#34; -&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/may/17/big-issue-sold-unemployed-john-bird&#34;&#62;Big Issue to be sold by unemployed as well as the homeless&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;don't post when it's good cycling weather outside:)&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ah but,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A lot of posts are from people who are inside and &#60;em&#62;aren't allowed out&#60;/em&#62; to cycle...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think more people should post from their mobile 'phones when they have reached some fabulous destination.
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<title>kaputnik on "Are we many?"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 11:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Too much cycling not enough surfing!!&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Big Issue (used to have) a mission statement of trying to put itself out of business by there no longer being a need for it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps a true measure of the success or otherwise of the forum is how many people do / don't post when it's good cycling weather outside :)
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