http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “People love cycling but hate cyclists” en Sun, 31 May 2026 14:42:43 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3426#post-35792 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:14:24 +0000 Min 35792@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think they are right. You are just banging your head agaist a brick wall otherwise. It ties in with the recent poll in London's Evening Standard where there was a great deal of support for a 20mph spped limit which then dropped quite sharply when they removed and doctored the poll to state that the limit was entirely for the benefit of cyclists.</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3399#post-35396" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3399#post-35396</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3426#post-35776 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 21:29:23 +0000 Nelly 35776@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My wife was down stockbridge today with a friend and the kids - near the new bike shop - when a toerag cycled along the pavement and pinched the mobile phone out of an american tourists hand - then he 'did a Cavendish' off down the road, never to be seen again.</p> <p>I suspect that the cycling angle would make this more newsworthy than a run of the mill mugging - a bit like the reports of 'cyclists going too fast knock people down' being much more prominent than any of our tales of near misses (or worse?)with other road users. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3426#post-35765 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:12:55 +0000 chdot 35765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Similar conclusions here (from a year ago) -</p> <p>"<br /> Sustainable transport groups Sustrans Scotland and the Transform Scotland Trust today (21 June) announced findings from their <a href="http://www.sustrans.org.uk/assets/files/scotland/civilising-the-streets.pdf">"Civilising the Street" report</a> revealing that Scots must look to their European counterparts for sustainable transport solutions.<br /> "</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=967" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=967</a></p> <p>From the report</p> <p>"</p> <p>Key Recommendations<br /> Leadership<br /> • Local politicians need to provide strong, visionary leadership to develop, implement, and carry through a robust, comprehensive, and long-term strategy for active travel.</p> <p>"</p> <p>Does that apply to Edinburgh? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3426#post-35763 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:16:04 +0000 chdot 35763@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> In the UK, and in many other countries, cyclists have a bad reputation. Cycling may be good for the economy, good for waistlines, good for unsnarling traffic, and good for the planet, but when a UK politician hears cyclists calling for dedicated infrastructure, nine times out of ten that politician pictures a cyclist running a red light, or buzzing pedestrians.</p> <p>This is a mistaken perception but it’s a prevalent one. Cycling in the UK is perceived as - and is - tribal. In the Netherlands, there are lots of people on bicycles, not lots of people who would call themselves cyclists. For cycling to go mainstream in the UK, it needs to become more “normal”. This is already happening, albeit slowly.</p> <p>London’s ‘Boris Bikes’ are being used by people who otherwise might have taken the Tube or a taxi. </p> <p>...</p> <p>Cycling groups who want to get more cycling in their locales need to buddy up with pedestrian groups, with wheelchair user groups, with child safety campaigners, with NIMBY organisations fighting urban sprawl. With cars tamed, human powered transport can flourish. And the taming is better done collectively rather than tribally.<br /> "</p> <p><a href="http://quickrelease.tv/?p=1617" rel="nofollow">http://quickrelease.tv/?p=1617</a> </p>