http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Future ........ city vision en Sun, 31 May 2026 14:43:12 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36345 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:21:36 +0000 steveo 36345@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Back to the Future II promised us hoverboards by 2015!!!! </em><br /> I'm working on it, patience! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36344 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:20:25 +0000 kaputnik 36344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Most people long ago gave up pointing and staring at aeroplanes, but not helicopters. Or hovercraft. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36342 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:12:05 +0000 wingpig 36342@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>People were also concerned when the replacement phased-array pyramid was installed at Fylingdales to replace the radomes, fearing that tourist buses heading to Whitby would lose one of the sights along the way.</p> <p>The route to/from parents I drive last week goes past three enormous coal-fired cooling-tower-equipped power stations in quick succession. Whilst they'd be interesting landmarks if preserved, they also look quite nice whilst crumpling when being demolished.</p> <p>I wish people would join up their long-term plans and strategies with short-term small-scale actual achievables more often. The staff-chivvying initiatives at work are a combination of too-much-in-too-short-a-timescale(considering people have their actual job to do alongside the extra stuff) or a 'routemap' consisting of an over-ambitious endpoint. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36336 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:52:01 +0000 kaputnik 36336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was thinking about the future and what was to be the future and what is no longer the future and what is now the future when I stopped on the hill near Dounraey to take a photo of the nuclear complex (now being decommissioned) with a field of wind turbines in the distance.</p> <p>Regardless of opinions about nuclear power, the golf-ball is a cool piece of design. Shame it will no longer be kept as a monument. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36334 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:43:30 +0000 chdot 36334@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And electricity would be so cheap it wouldn't be worth putting light switches in new buildings. </p> <p>That is another problem of 50 year visions - the predicted future never happens. </p> <p>Or is it that 'we' as consumers like the ideas and politicians (etc.) try to deliver them. </p> <p><em>Perhaps</em> people have got to the stage where they don't actually want two cars in the drive of their detached house and wish politicians would stop 'promising' them. Perhaps. </p> <p>But what to wish for - end to war and poverty? Sure. </p> <p>No more motor vehicles? Well...</p> <p>A highly educated workforce to compete with the rest of the world? But of course, but. </p> <p>Better maintenance of what we have? Not aspirational enough! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36330 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:27:43 +0000 amir 36330@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The future vision in the 70s was robots doing all the work and we could all retire at 30 or sumat. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36327 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:24:18 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 36327@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Back to the Future II promised us hoverboards by 2015!!!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36324 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:20:27 +0000 chdot 36324@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"If there is one thing local authorities do not lack it is long term plans and strategies."</p> <p>Very true. </p> <p>In many ways that is perhaps part of the problem. <em>Too many</em> plans - often statutory obligations. Sometimes in conflict with other ones - economic development v 'environmental improvement'. The 'trick' to avoid such conflicts by seeing a 'bigger picture'.</p> <p>Of course whether a '50 year vision' can be of <em>any</em> value is very much an open question!</p> <p>It may well be yet another fancy document that well meaning time and effort and goodwill had gone into with almost no benefit. </p> <p>Anyone remember the Lord Provost's Commission on Sustainable Development for the City of Edinburgh?</p> <p>Masses amount of worthy work fairly quickly ignored. </p> <p>It would be nice to think that there could be something that 'a city' - i.e. the people likely to live/work in it in the future - could sign up to. </p> <p>Nice if it could be more than a wish list of platitudes or fantasies - 50 years ago some people seriously believed that future transport would involve a lot of individual jetpacks!</p> <p>But... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36319 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:48:56 +0000 Morningsider 36319@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So, lets get this straight. Glasgow City Council don't think the following are enough?</p> <p>Structure Plan<br /> City Local Plan<br /> Sevice Plan<br /> Local housing stragey<br /> Tourism strategy<br /> Metropolitan vision<br /> Transport strategy<br /> Climate change strategy<br /> Employment strategy</p> <p>I could go on, but I'm sure you get the idea. If there is one thing local authorities do not lack it is long term plans and strategies. Given the current financial climate I think the cash would be better spent on something of practical benefit. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36318 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:39:13 +0000 crowriver 36318@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Given the average rainfall in Glasgow, maybe hydro powered trams would be wiser. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36300 Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:43:33 +0000 kaputnik 36300@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>solar-powered trams?</p> <p>But yes, I think Edinburgh could do with one, but it should be more than just an exercise in burning the marketing, PR and consultancy budgets! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3478#post-36299 Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:05:39 +0000 chdot 36299@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Glasgow City Council has launched a major visionary ‘Future Glasgow’ initiative which will explore the prospects for the city over the next 50 years and look at the quality of life residents, workers and visitors might enjoy. </p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://glasgowcityvision.com" rel="nofollow">http://glasgowcityvision.com</a></p> <p>Maybe Edinburgh needs one.</p> <p><a href="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6011/5978944551_932e1f25de_b.jpg"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6011/5978944551_932e1f25de.jpg"></a> </p>