http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Cycle parking, please can we have more… en Mon, 18 May 2026 14:40:37 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-79664 Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:45:29 +0000 ExcitableBoy 79664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Popped into the centre of town (would you say that in Scotland/Edin?)today to do a bit of shopping. Now in my opinion there has been a sorry lack of suitable cycle parking along Princes St, Rose St etc for as long as I've lived here, but at least you used to be able to find a space. Today all the racks were full! </p> <p>Now, I admit it's great if this is due to more people being out on bikes and not as a result of reduced parking spaces. But... WE NEED MORE CYCLE PARKING...NOW!!</p> <p>How hard can it be? World-class cycling city, Ha! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38117 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:55:39 +0000 Roibeard 38117@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All "parked" under the no cycles sign, which presumably also explains the lack of racks! I suppose there'd be a white van along to lift them all if this were in the UK...</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38116 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:35:19 +0000 Kim 38116@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just in case there is any confusion here is a <a href="http://www.cyclestreets.net/location/19060/">photo of the main train station in Bremen</a>, no bicycles there then... ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38115 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:30:34 +0000 Kim 38115@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Really? Aren't you being a wee bit disingenuous here? Given that the <a href="http://www.bremen-tourismus.de/foreign/k1-rubrik_unter.cfm?index=762&amp;m=1.09&amp;RubrikID=758&amp;RubrikID2=782&amp;lang=eng">ADFC Radstation</a> next door has 1,500 bike parking spaces... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38110 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 03:34:27 +0000 ruggtomcat 38110@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>nope, all wrong. the answer is.....</p> <p>zero. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38096 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:47:36 +0000 chdot 38096@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>1001 </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38094 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:37:51 +0000 LaidBack 38094@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>More than in the whole of Edinburgh?</p> <p>More than in Scotland?</p> <p><em>Those Germans have taken all the bike racks.....;-)</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38092 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:31:02 +0000 ruggtomcat 38092@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Guess how many bike parking spaces there are outside the main train station in Bremen... Go on. Guess. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38083 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:21:10 +0000 Kim 38083@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks Tulyar, care to give us a link to where the information is?</p> <p>I agree with the sentiment about visual impact in the New Town, the council should take a zero tolerance with these visual intrusions into the architecture of the World Heritage Site and ban all parking in the area... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-38020 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:45:51 +0000 Tulyar 38020@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Suggest you look at the materials I worked on with Trevor parsons and logged under Homebikepark (Hackney-Cyclists website - various concepts were tested*. Back in 1998 we did try to get a 'bread bin' installed in Gayfield Square as part of an Edinburgh Residential Parking Project (more accurately 2 x Bread Bins (Jan Kuipers Fietstrommel - imported to UK by Haldo) which happily will take 10-12 bikes and fill a standard 2.2-2.5m x 5m parking bay. The major issue was the aesthehic impact of putting 2 of these on a parking bay in the New Town rather than a motor vehicle (Pardon me but is there any visual difference?). I would have recommended using clear panels throughout, black gloss steelwork finish and fitting laser-cut and possibly applique/casting profiled end panels in the style of balcony or balustrades used in the area, to soften the visual impact of a bauhaus/modernist shape.</p> <p>The Lambeth unit is one the Peter Davenport was importing for Cycleworks but as is typical for installations passed with no competent site agent/QS supervising they seem to have got the bike rack installed at 90 degrees to the correct position, or more accurately the shelter is in the wrong orientation - the rack is right. In the orientation shown you will have major problems extracting bikes if someone parks hard up to the lifting door in the adjacent parking bay </p> <p>The rack is NOT a wheelbender it is the common standard for many places in Europe where cycling is popular, and supports a standard 26-28" wheel at 2 points spaced on the tyre circumference, locating bike neatly in cycle parking, and deterring the multiple use which often results in a tangle of inter-locked bikes around a sheffield stand. within a locked unit, with a restricted number of users you should be able to just roll the bikes in to a supporting frame. </p> <p>One neat design from Germany provides a lock-on hoop that reached to the seat tube/rear wheel and traps the front wheel in the tray. It is modular so a unit can be extended as a giant toastrack with adult and 'child' size units, and a spacing between bikes down to less than 20cm parked with overlapping front wheels and hi-lo to overlap handlebars. 26 bikes sit on a footprint just 5m x 3m (but obviously you have to allow for access gangways either side).</p> <p>With the high ceilings in flats and closes one Edinburgh solution is a raised shelf with 'anchor/rest points on the wall above for the inside crank/pedal. Placing the wide parts of the bike above head height and leaning out at an angle of 17-20 degrees. I have a design for this and wheels on the ground wall parking with a bike every 90 cm (options to set from 80-120 cm) and width of 80 cm out from the wall required. </p> <p>One recent alert too - on the Trimetals bike shed - make sure you fit and use all the locking points as designed - some recent thefts where weak bracket/fixing was 'exposed' and easy to attack with cutter. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-37868 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:43:37 +0000 Kim 37868@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The photos of Copenhagen residential bike parking is interesting in its own right, please tell more... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-37859 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:17:53 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 37859@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kim I've got some great photos of Copenhagen residential bike parking if you need any more ammunition. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-37854 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:43:38 +0000 kaputnik 37854@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Excellent concept, but still silly lock-through-the-wheel wheelbender rack inside. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3612#post-37846 Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:07:30 +0000 Kim 37846@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some of you will know that I have long been keen on there being <a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=459">on street residential cycle parking</a>, well it looks like it is happening! Only not in Edinburgh, but <a href="http://www.cyclehoop.com/features/a-first-for-the-uk/">in Lambeth</a>, this is just the sort of thing which I have been suggesting. Now that there is a president maybe CEC can be persuaded to follow suit. </p>