http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "car is a dumb way to move around in cities" en Sun, 31 May 2026 15:32:13 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3652#post-38339 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:02:54 +0000 Instography 38339@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't know. It looks less clever in the context of the full sentence where the "dumb" statement is preceded by two pieces of hyperbole: "And <strong>urban gridlock</strong>, combined with <strong>an absence</strong> of parking places and congestion charging, makes the car a dumb way to move around in cities where there are public transport alternatives". My emphasis.</p> <p>We're nowhere near either of those situations. A bit congested, a shortage of (expensive) parking places but not gridlock and not an absence. And congestion charging only applies to London.</p> <p>More importantly, if, as he implies, motorists are plain dumb, what hope is there for significant change? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3652#post-38338 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:52:57 +0000 Kim 38338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The "car is a dumb way to move around in cities" we all know it but why don't policy makers get it? It has been clear for over 40 years... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3652#post-38286 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:26:54 +0000 LaidBack 38286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>makes the car a dumb way to move around in cities<strong> <em>where there are public transport alternatives.</em></strong></p> <p>As users of the forum know - any old or new bike can get across central Edinburgh faster than exisiting bus routes.</p> <p>Edinburgh's problem is one of too many buses and too many stops. Plus lack of pre-bought 24 hour tickets resulting in bus stop times taking longer than they could.<br /> Most cities would maximise existing corridors (ie to Leth by rail, South Sub with interchanges. Edinburgh's statement of intent was shown a while back when the St Andrew Square bus station was re-built away from rail station and with no city buses going that close. That is a great example of a <em>dis-intergrated transport approach...</em> . Even the re-vamp of Waverley offers less than it should although a public escalator in central Edinburgh is quite a step forward) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3652#post-38278 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:44:12 +0000 chdot 38278@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> carltonreid: </p> <p>The "car is a dumb way to move around in cities". It's in NewScientist so must be true. <strong><a href="http://t.co/07LKrFc" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/07LKrFc</a></strong> </p> <p>Original Tweet: <a href="http://twitter.com/carltonreid/status/103442025973690368" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/carltonreid/status/103442025973690368</a><br /> " </p>