http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: The Benefits of Multiple Bikes to the Lazy en Sun, 31 May 2026 18:57:37 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38529 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:33:30 +0000 Smudge 38529@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I sense another thread is due...<br /> <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3666" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3666</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38528 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:31:48 +0000 DaveC 38528@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Smudge, tbh, I've not ridden anything other than M+ es (if you don't count my Specialized MTB tyres on my Rockhopper.</p> <p>I do have a hard time putting them on the rims (I swap from 28's in the summer to 32's in the winter. I have a new bike arriving with cyclocross tyres so I'll see how diff to rid on the road they are and may try from Ultramo's which Anthony has on his, though I think the rims won't take anything smaller than 28s. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38524 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:25:54 +0000 kaputnik 38524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The effect of wean on cycling would I think be most noticable if they were strapped to the rims...</p> <p>I do not recommend this be tested. At least not with your own wean!</p> <p>M Pluses don't roll bad. They just take a lot to get them rolling! And the ride through all that rubber is quite dull. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38522 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:22:04 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 38522@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>mmmm. Pies... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38521 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:21:30 +0000 wingpig 38521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been loading an extra 12kg of wean onto my rear 23C with no ill effects, though I assume it's little different to carrying a rider weighing 95kg rather than 83kg (except that the child-weight is directly over the rear wheel whereas an extra 12kg of pies around my middle would affect the front wheel more). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38520 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:20:56 +0000 amir 38520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's not just the tyres that determines how hard they are to fit but the combination with the wheels. I really struggled terribly to get some gp4000s on my Wasting wheels but krylions on open pro rim easypeasy. Of course time, effort and swearing helps.</p> <p>Choice of types depends on many factors. I am syllable nervous of wet roads so grip is important to me and need for ultimate puncture roofing depends on the likelihood of picturing materials on the route.</p> <p>I use gp000s on the summer race bike, kyrlions (excellent) on the winter bike and gatorskins hard cases.on the commuter. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38519 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:09:45 +0000 Stepdoh 38519@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>and while on the subject are 26x1 1/8 tyres okay on a mtb with child carrier, or do I need something a wee bit sturdier? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38515 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:56:16 +0000 Stepdoh 38515@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Do M+es really roll so badly? (on a not particularly light steel bike running on 26" rims) </p> <p>My bike will be needing reshod before dealing with the autumn roads, so looking for options. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38511 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:51:50 +0000 kaputnik 38511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gonti GP4000 are folding tyres and you can almost talk them onto the rim. They were great tyres and resistant too, to a certain point at which they just started to fall apart very rapidly. They are expensive though and had been got in a sale, so just replaced with regular Ultragatorskins.</p> <p>I've always been lucky with Ultragatorskins. They still need assistance of a lever to get them on and off usually, but just the one.</p> <p>As I've posted before, Marathon Plus x32c fell apart on my tour but Ultragatorskin x28c didn't. My tourer now has Conti Touring Plus as Top Contacts just seemed a bit expensive - and I wasn't planning on cycling over the Andes or something at any point soon. Then I might consider them. I'd never use Marathon Plus again. I've proved to myself that they are not bomb proof so don't think why I should have to put myself through hauling nearly a 2 kilos of heavy, ride-deadening rubber around.</p> <p>The rolling resistance in my experience is pretty low, however getting them up to speed is quite a chore and I found they really tired me out when I was commuting on a bike with them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38501 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:30:29 +0000 Smudge 38501@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Dave C. How are they for rolling resistance in your opinion? (I haven't tried them myself) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38497 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:22:02 +0000 chdot 38497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The Benefits of Multiple Bikes to the Lazy"</p> <p>Don't agree. More than one bike isn't about laziness it's about practicality (and N+1) - we've had threads on that.</p> <p>(And a thread about how long it took anth to fix a puncture - maybe that's the laziness to which one refers??) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38496 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:19:57 +0000 DaveC 38496@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've never had a puncture through my Schwabe Marathon Plus. I also got a pair for my mountain bike for road use.</p> <p>Dave C </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38495 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:19:35 +0000 wingpig 38495@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I once managed to get a 28C Armadillo <em>off</em> without use of levers, though that might have been on my death-trap bent-sidewall rim. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38493 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:15:09 +0000 Instography 38493@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm glad you said that about the armadillos. I sweated buckets over two at the weekend but just figured it was my poor technique and weak thumbs. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38487 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:00:39 +0000 Smudge 38487@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Haven't tried Marathon Plus but I'm, getting tempted as my armadilloes(sp?) are getting squared off now and in 26 x 1.25 size that's a lot of drag for my tired little legs! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38483 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:57:21 +0000 wingpig 38483@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So have I, but only once, with a thorn, on the front path, on a years-old almost-worn-through example.</p> <p>Unless it's something to do with the shape of twenty-odd-year-old rims, fitting a new 23C Armadillo to my old spare wheel this morning was almost as frustrating as getting a Marathon Plus on. I'd previously though 25/28 Armadilloes easy to mount and relatively painless to remove. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38481 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:48:04 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 38481@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe it's the way I ride, I've punctured Armadilloes as well... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38476 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:37:38 +0000 wingpig 38476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Armadilloes, innit? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38471 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:28:56 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 38471@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I believe in this situation Mr Wingpig is the one being smug... ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38465 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:22:18 +0000 Smudge 38465@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Doesn't it give one a nice smug glow :)<br /> Even better than pulling a new spare tube out of the bag in similar circumstances.</p> <p>Argh Winpig, you just made the thoughts rise unbidden that the P faeries have only visited me once in about 3k miles on my current Specialized Nimbus Armadillo(!) tyres... doomed now the faeries have been tempted :-(</p> <p>;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38464 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:22:03 +0000 wingpig 38464@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"...there's that familiar 'ooh that's soft' feel to the back tyre"</em></blockquote></p> <p>Familiar? Nup. Don't know that one. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3663#post-38460 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:17:03 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 38460@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Half a mile out the door and there's that familiar 'ooh that's soft' feel to the back tyre. Damn and blast. Fix it by the side of the road or... Less than five minutes to the house to swap bikes?</p> <p>Couldn't be bothered with the wrestle and the grimy hands, slow downhill roll + uphill amble, garage, bag swap, still into work well before 9, and clean hands. </p>