http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Citycycling Issue 6 en Mon, 18 May 2026 06:25:23 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41222 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:07:33 +0000 Morningsider 41222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>WFB - yeah, I remember seeing that somewhere in the forum as well. Anyway, I checked it out and the law states that the following is an exception to the general prohibition on riding/driving on a pavement:</p> <p>"where and in so far as the vehicle or animal is being taken across the footway, footpath or cycle track"</p> <p>So it all depends on your definition of "taken". Personally, I would see that as allowing a bike to be ridden across a pavement rather than pushed, because it is the same exception that allows drivers to cross the pavement, and no-one makes them get out and push. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41220 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:11:38 +0000 wee folding bike 41220@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>BTW. PDF version is handy, I can put it on an iPad and read it anywhere. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41219 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:05:38 +0000 wee folding bike 41219@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well I'd suggested the access to property option before but there was a feeling that it only applied to motor vehicles.</p> <p>Next time I see the local bike cops do it I can ask them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41212 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:31:02 +0000 Morningsider 41212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>WFB - riding or driving across a pavement is legal (Roads (Scotland) Act 1984, S 129 5(a)).</p> <p>My last post is (ahem) not too clear. What I should have said is - anyone under 12 can ride on the pavement without fear of prosecution. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41211 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:23:09 +0000 wee folding bike 41211@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cops ride on the pavement in/out of our school car park. It's across the pavement, not along it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41161 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:58:49 +0000 Instography 41161@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good magazine Anth. Enjoyed it. A fine distraction from work. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41148 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:57:08 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 41148@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Morningsider</p> <p>Indeed, and I was hoping that someone might pick her up on it (and no, Madam Raven is <em>not</em> me...) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41143 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:06:04 +0000 wingpig 41143@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wherever it likes?<br /> <em>*tshhh*</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41140 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:04:28 +0000 recombodna 41140@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Where does the land reform act stand on this? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41133 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:23:43 +0000 Morningsider 41133@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The advice given by Madam Raven on the legality of children cycling on the pavement is wrong.</p> <p>Anyone riding a bike on a footway (pavement) in Scotland is committing an offence under the provisions of Section 129(5) of the Roads (Scotland) Act 1984. These offences are usually enforced through a police officer issuing a fixed penalty notice.</p> <p>Police would normally use their discretion when dealing with children cycling on the pavement - i.e. not do anything. </p> <p>While fixed penalty notices can be issued to those of an age of criminal responsibility (i.e. 8+ in Scotland)*, the sanctions for failing to pay such a notice are normally enforced through the adult justice system. It is difficult to envisage a situation where failure to pay a fixed penalty notice issued for cycling offences is enforced through the children's hearing system. In practice this means that sanctions for cycling offences normally apply only to adults.</p> <p>*The Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010, Section 52 establishes that no-one aged under 12 can be prosecuted for an offence. However, the age of criminal responsibility remains at 8, i.e. anyone aged under 8 cannot be guilty of an offence, as set out in Section 41 of the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act 1995. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41110 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:33:19 +0000 chdot 41110@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is a slightly better one (wider) - near Leven. BUT not far enough away from the traffic to avoid spray!<br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6142284316/in/set-72157627637807700"><br /> <img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6201/6142284316_e2ecd59948.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41103 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:42:19 +0000 gembo 41103@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some suggestion from Madam Raven that bent users may have enlarged prostrates (in the future).</p> <p>Tadcaster - home of the great Samuel Smith's. Used to by-pass it on way to Flamborough Head. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41102 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:32:49 +0000 ruggtomcat 41102@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>with a nice fence for the smearing! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41092 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:11:08 +0000 Arellcat 41092@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>...you get to the motorway where the cyclepath is separated by a 6ft concrete wall.</em></p> <p>A cycle path last month:<br /> <img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6079/6097802667_15ed692264.jpg"></p> <p>That's the A64 near Tadcaster, and that traffic is doing 70mph. :-/ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41088 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:59:40 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 41088@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://citycycling.co.uk/Issue2/Anthsterdam1.html">My experience of cycling in the 'dam</a></p> <p>Covered a fair expanse of the city by bike. Around our hotel, near the station, there were a lot of segregated lanes - riding out to the Rijksmuseum, not so much.</p> <p>Interesting point ruggers, thinking back to it we took small roads a lot of places, whereas the bigger roads saw more segregation. Marc van Woudenberg (Mr Amsterdamize) was very enlightening over a couple of beers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41087 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:55:38 +0000 ruggtomcat 41087@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>because in holland they have zoned transport, everything gets mixed together as soon as you enter local residential areas, with small roads, a rough surface and 20kmph limits. as the limit goes up so the traffic becomes more segregated until you get to the motorway where the cyclepath is separated by a 6ft concrete wall.</p> <p>I suspect Anth was put off by cycing in Dam traffic, which is like driving in Rome on a miniature scale. Hairy for us rule bound island types. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41085 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:45:22 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 41085@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>By no means universal though... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41083 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:35:48 +0000 recombodna 41083@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dunno where Anth went cycling in Amsterdam. Maybe a few streets in the very centre of the city. I've been cycling in Amsterdam for the last 20 years and can safely say there are a plethora of segregated cycle lanes both in the city and between cities. ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41078 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:52:54 +0000 SRD 41078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>all true, but in this case it is preferable to sitting in office and dealing with freshers.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41077 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:51:36 +0000 kaputnik 41077@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My experiences of work-related workshops is that they involve neither work nor shopping. Nor metal bashing or the use of big tools, which would be far more enjoyable way to spend a day. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41072 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:39:43 +0000 SRD 41072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm at a workshop....both seems to be an option :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41066 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 09:21:21 +0000 Arellcat 41066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Decision: sit at my desk and read .cc, or sit at my desk and do work... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41060 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:45:27 +0000 wingpig 41060@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Copenhagen" link on the front leads to Issue 5's Madam Raven section.</p> <p>BAGH. Missed a typo. "otehr" must be in Chrome's dictionary for some reason. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3925#post-41052 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:32:13 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 41052@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Online as planned. I'm as stunned as anyone else...</p> <p><a href="http://www.citycycling.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.citycycling.co.uk</a> </p>