http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Priority system for winter gritting routes" en Wed, 13 May 2026 03:38:30 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223&page=2#post-49397 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:58:30 +0000 crowriver 49397@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A gritter lorry passed me at arm's length this morning on the way up Regent Road, so the rock salt crystals pinged off my spokes and rims. </p> <p>At least on the way home there should not be any black ice on that descent! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223&page=2#post-49382 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:24:08 +0000 wingpig 49382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sub-Crags path around the NE section of the hill not treated and frosty at the edges opposite the Scotsman and quite lumpy-icy south of/anticlockwise from the bit where the footpath crosses the road.</p> <p>The barrier was down at the exit from the circum-hill road, which is unusual for a quarter to nine, which might signify something concerning its treatedness/frostiness. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223&page=2#post-49381 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:22:20 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 49381@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Main roads were great today. Actually, even the side roads were fine (though I rode out a bit further form the edge than normal - and was keeping a very close eye on the Johnstone Terrace downslope, 'specially since there are roadworks lights at the bottom, queueing traffic, and a Ford Galaxy desperate to overtake before hitting that queue). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223&page=2#post-49380 Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:16:49 +0000 Min 49380@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Warriston path was gritted this morning. I will gather intelligence about some of the rest of the NE network. Innocent was still ice-rut-tacular. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223&page=2#post-49266 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:27:34 +0000 chdot 49266@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> edintravel: </p> <p>All Edinburgh's priority 1 &amp; 2 routes have been salted today with residential areas being done this aft/eve. Patrols will continue overnight </p> <p>Original Tweet: <a href="http://twitter.com/edintravel/status/143720304403947520" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/edintravel/status/143720304403947520</a> </p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223&page=2#post-49263 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:10:42 +0000 Kim 49263@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting that they are gritting "priority pavements" I wonder where they are? </p> <p>There was also <a href="http://edinburghcyclechic.wordpress.com/2011/12/05/where-are-the-gritters/">this post from Edinburgh Cycle Chic</a>... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223&page=2#post-49116 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:14:06 +0000 kaputnik 49116@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>8.476 tonnes per gritter! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-49112 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:05:03 +0000 Arellcat 49112@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Poking about on CEC's gritting schedule map as above, and note that the Innocent Path still isn't a priority.</p> <p>Interesting reading though:</p> <p>"<em><br /> 4 December 2011 - Between 6pm yesterday and 6am this morning 21 gritters used 178 tonnes of salt to salt all Priority 1 roads. This morning 9 priority pavements were salted and the remaining 11 will be salted by the end of today. We have gritters going out tonight to salt Priority 1 roads and maintenance Task Force staff have been reassigned to winter maintenance duties.</em><br /> "</p> <p>A hundred and seventy-eight tonnes! In one night! Crivvens. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47296 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:21:02 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47296@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>'snot just snow though. The last 4 years I've been commuting on the Innocent for 2-3 months it is an ice-laden mess. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47295 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:19:45 +0000 spitters 47295@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don't they get snow every year though?<br /> Problem we face is council get in trouble if they spend too much cash on winter gear that sits dormant for 3-4 years then gets used once and goes back in the shed...<br /> Though this year I think they have the justification they need after the snow we had last year. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47294 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:59:20 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47294@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It <em>isn't</em> unachievable.</p> <p>If you live in Scandinavia. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47293 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:58:18 +0000 kaputnik 47293@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>you need to make this more accurate </em></p> <p>Yes I'm taking full advantage of my artistic licence by making it a winter utopia where the pensioners aren't afraid to go out in the snow :) and the cooncil workers smile as they go about their day!</p> <p>But the point I think I was trying to get across - the "utopia" of cleared and gritted paths - shouldn't be unachievable. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47291 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:52:58 +0000 spitters 47291@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't have any time of my own, seriously, bike has lain out of action for a week with a flat I haven't had time to change. Tubes bought on Saturday so hopefully tonight.<br /> I will happily send one of these to all my councillors<br /> BUT<br /> Kaputnik - you need to make this more accurate - add in a few neds beating the unattended snowman to death. Make one of the streetlights broken. Change the old lady's stick so that it is being waved in anger at the cyclist on the pavement. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47289 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:42:44 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47289@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kappers, you have mail about this. Finding some time of my own again and have decided to get all belligerent and pro-active on this issue. ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47223 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:03:56 +0000 crowriver 47223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wonderful idea! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-47217 Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:57:20 +0000 kaputnik 47217@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If I were to get a run of the following printed as cards, who thinks it would be a good idea to send them to our local councillors, with a little message on the inside reminding them about what the priorities <em>should</em> be if they really want to keep people moving around town this winter?</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaputniq/6362992929/"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6050/6362992929_cb0c1d5d53.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaputniq/6362992929/">Season's Grittings</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/kaputniq/">kaputniq</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-45864 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:28:33 +0000 chdot 45864@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Council’s real time grit tracker to keep drivers on the move"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/edinburgh/around-the-capital/council_s_real_time_grit_tracker_to_keep_drivers_on_the_move_1_1953551" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/edinburgh/around-the-capital/council_s_real_time_grit_tracker_to_keep_drivers_on_the_move_1_1953551</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-45459 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:31:22 +0000 wee folding bike 45459@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This guy says it will be cold again. </p> <p><a href="http://markvoganweather.blogspot.com/p/long-range.htmlv" rel="nofollow">http://markvoganweather.blogspot.com/p/long-range.htmlv</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-45456 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:45:06 +0000 kaputnik 45456@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wonder if the cooncil can programme it to bring out "city chambers" at the top of the list... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-45455 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:36:31 +0000 chdot 45455@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> TWO young Edinburgh entrepreneurs have created a computer system to predict which areas need cleared and gritted before the first flake of snow has even fallen. </p> <p> "</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/edinburgh/around-the-capital/innovation_to_keep_firms_on_move_in_winter_1_1948309" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/edinburgh/around-the-capital/innovation_to_keep_firms_on_move_in_winter_1_1948309</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44042 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:06:37 +0000 chdot 44042@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Perhaps if we complained to a central service when the paths become blocked (and complain in bulk) we may see a better service?"</p> <p>Why wait...</p> <p>Not sure how accurate/relevant the one complaint is - though I believe it was about someone who was injured rather than just 'complaining'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44036 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:56:46 +0000 DaveC 44036@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm I notice the nmber of complaints. Perhaps if we complained to a central service when the paths become blocked (and complain in bulk) we may see a better service? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44029 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:35:12 +0000 chdot 44029@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is not guaranteed to be the exact/total of relevant ramps that are on the current 'winter' list.</p> <p>It was compiled 3 years ago so expected cycle usage may have increased...</p> <p>Anyone remember if this were done last year, and how early into the 'deep freeze'?</p> <p>At least they won't need to do the Russell Road ramp this year (they <em>did</em> last year but can't remember when).</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6279730246/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6118/6279730246_96b91e58a8.jpg"></p> <p>Click for bigger</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44019 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:13:25 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 44019@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>So people who might struggle along untreated main parts could get stuck/fall over at the off-ramps if they weren't treated?</em>"</p> <p>Like chdot says, if there's a list then we'd be able to tell. But, what it might also do is give the false impression that the route has been treated, so someone rides down/up/along the ramp, sees the path hasn't actually been treated, figures 'I'm on it now I might as well continue' and comes off.</p> <p>Last year there was a VERY bloodied girl walking along the Innocent having come off her bike and cracked her head. All on a perfectly flat part of the route. When it's icy it's certainly just as possible to come off on the flat as on an access ramp. I just think it makes logical sense if you're going to grit the access that you do the actual route you're giving access to. Treating access only is encouraging people to use a 'facility' that isn't safe. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44017 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:59:44 +0000 chdot 44017@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Should read Midlothian prioritises driving to schools"</p> <p>True, though I think they use buses more than Edinburgh due to larger catchment areas.</p> <p>I expect they do paths/pavements near schools too, which Edinburgh didn't last year. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44016 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:57:02 +0000 kaputnik 44016@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Midlothian prioritises schools </em></p> <p>Should read <em>Midlothian prioritises <strong>driving to</strong> schools </em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44012 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:51:57 +0000 chdot 44012@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"aren't the ramps much steeper than the main parts of the routes? So people who might struggle along untreated main parts could get stuck/fall over at the off-ramps if they weren't treated?"</p> <p>Good point.</p> <p>Will have to get a list... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-44008 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:49:35 +0000 slowcoach 44008@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>Strangely the A6094 east of the new A68 is not covered</em></blockquote><br /> The A6094 crosses the boundary between East Lothian and Midlothian at the new A68 (despite the boundary shown in the Road Gritting Routes map).</p> <p><blockquote><em>grit the access ramps to the off-road routes, but not the routes themselves</em></blockquote> - not somewhere I've been in recent winters but aren't the ramps much steeper than the main parts of the routes? So people who might struggle along untreated main parts could get stuck/fall over at the off-ramps if they weren't treated? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-43985 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:45:19 +0000 Arellcat 43985@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"Treatment of the off-road cycle routes across the city will be undertaken when resources permit."</em></p> <p>Not nonsense at all. CEC obviously knows that the whole cycling population of Edinburgh is represented by CCE, and all of them have been buying spikey tyres this year.</p> <p>The bit along at Ravelston Dykes was a deathtrap for anyone not fitted with at least three wheels. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4223#post-43984 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:44:15 +0000 Morningsider 43984@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>chdot - you can find the winter maintenance plan at:</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/1851/city_of_edinburgh_winter_maintenance_plan" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/1851/city_of_edinburgh_winter_maintenance_plan</a> </p>