http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "a system that respects cyclists promotes respectful cycling" en Sun, 31 May 2026 16:57:49 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44453 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:59:53 +0000 chdot 44453@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> In his Guardian Bike Blog, Matthew Wright is incorrect to suggest that our 'Go Dutch' actions are solely about cycle paths, or that we're "misrepresenting" the Dutch approach. </p> <p>We've been to the Netherlands recently, where we met leading planners, engineers and cycle campaigners.<br /> "</p> <p><a href="http://lcc.org.uk/articles/we-clarify-the-meaning-of-our-go-dutch-campaign-in-response-to-guardian-bike-blog-article" rel="nofollow">http://lcc.org.uk/articles/we-clarify-the-meaning-of-our-go-dutch-campaign-in-response-to-guardian-bike-blog-article</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44401 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:53:31 +0000 wee folding bike 44401@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>+3</p> <p>I use a bike to get places just like I would with a car. I don't want to use the scenic route… well not often. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44386 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:10:53 +0000 chdot 44386@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"lamposts that are in the middle of the b****y path"</p> <p>A CEC speciality -</p> <p><img src="http://images.everytrail.com/pics/fullsize/3466640-photo31.jpg?nocache=5973"></p> <p><a href="http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=1300484" rel="nofollow">http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=1300484</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44383 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:01:48 +0000 chdot 44383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I was speechless"</p> <p>Is that unusual(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44382 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:00:56 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 44382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Agreed +2</p> <p>"<em>... faster and more pleasant routes through back streets, parks and towpaths</em>"</p> <p>Don't disagree that the routes <em>may</em> be more pleasant. But faster? Zig-zagging about back streets instead of just a straight line? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44380 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:56:07 +0000 recombodna 44380@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"How about we work on reducing the danger, noise and pollution rather than removing cyclists and pedestrians from key parts of our cities."</p> <p>agreed + 1</p> <p>People friendly street is what we need. Polwarth gardens is massively( for example) wide but the pavement width is a joke. Also it has street signs and lamposts that are in the middle of the b****y path. The wide streets encourage increased speeds and dangerous double parking. </p> <p>I was almost knocked off by a speeding van at the roundabout there yesterday. When I caught up with him along the road and had a chat with him he totaly took me by surprise by apologizing and being ultra polite............I was speechless. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44350 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:15:43 +0000 chdot 44350@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"How about we work on reducing the danger, noise and pollution rather than removing cyclists and pedestrians from key parts of our cities."</p> <p>Agreed!</p> <p>Otherwise it's back to the 60s - Motorways on stills, pedestrian walkways on Princes Street - <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1474#post-13934">second pic</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44349 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:11:06 +0000 Morningsider 44349@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Article fail:</p> <p>"With the exception of short stretches of essential main road-sharing...why would you want to cycle in such noise, danger and pollution, when there are faster and more pleasant routes through back streets, parks and towpaths? This kind of route requires only some intelligent planning and signposting"</p> <p>Main roads are main roads for a reason. With a few exceptions they are the quickest means of getting from A to B in a city. Anything that shoves cyclists down obscure side streets and requires elaborate signage is not the solution. Anyone that has followed the NCN between Edinburgh and Glasgow should be able to confirm this.</p> <p>How about we work on reducing the danger, noise and pollution rather than removing cyclists and pedestrians from key parts of our cities. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4247#post-44345 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:35:06 +0000 chdot 44345@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2011/oct/27/bike-blog-going-dutch-lanes" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/bike-blog/2011/oct/27/bike-blog-going-dutch-lanes</a> </p>