http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "SCOTLAND’S city streets are a “disaster” " en Thu, 21 May 2026 13:04:46 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4264#post-44706 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:53:42 +0000 mgj 44706@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd rather be eaten alive by wild dogs than take my kids shopping in town, but if we do go, walking or the bus is much better unless we are going on somewhere later and that's too far away to walk. Different if you have too much to carry, but that is rare and taking the bus cuts down on over-consumption. Kids are much more persuadable not to buy crap if they think they are going to have to carry it home. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4264#post-44700 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:42:19 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 44700@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting in the comments (my emphasis)</p> <p>"<em>I'm all in favour of some pedestrian areas, but you've got to be able to get there first. Most people, especially those with young families <strong>want</strong> to take the car. So you <strong>need</strong> good parking availability...</em>"</p> <p>'Need' naturally follows 'want', but 'want' does not equate to 'need' in the first place, so surely you tackle the 'want' with good alternatives, and then the 'need' disappears from being a problem. Am I being too simplistic? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4264#post-44694 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:33:15 +0000 chdot 44694@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> SCOTLAND’S city streets are a “disaster”, driving shoppers to out-of-town malls, according to one of the country’s most influential transport academics.<br /> "</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/disastrous_broken_teeth_streets_force_city_shoppers_away_1_1939221" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/disastrous_broken_teeth_streets_force_city_shoppers_away_1_1939221</a> </p>