http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "ACTION GROUP CALLS FOR RE-OPENING OF EDINBURGH'S ABBEYHILL STATION" en Thu, 21 May 2026 15:45:37 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-55492 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:51:49 +0000 chdot 55492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Abbeyhill of course has never been on the "South Suburban" [sic] line. But we'll let them off with that."</p> <p>Think the notion is that if (I used to say when) South Sub reopens, trains would be routed via Abbeyhill to keep main line clear. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-55489 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:34:11 +0000 kaputnik 55489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the Herald;</p> <p><a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/transport/campaigners-press-case-for-new-stations.16646980">CAMPAIGNERS are urging ministers to add 12 new stations to Scotland's rail network as the Government puts the finishing touches to a £1 billion investment programme in the central belt.</a></p> <p>The proposed stations are;</p> <p>Proposed routes<br /> Station &amp; Route<br /> Royroyston, Cumbernauld line<br /> Winchburgh, Edinburgh-Glasgow<br /> Grangemouth, Grangemouth freight line<br /> Bonnybridge, Edinburgh-Glasgow<br /> Abronhill, Cumbernauld line<br /> Abbeyhill, Edinburgh South Suburbun<br /> Portobello, North Berwick Line<br /> Woodilee, Edinburgh-Glasgow<br /> Westerhill, Edinburgh-Glasgow<br /> Bannockburn, Dunblane line<br /> Cambus, Alloa line</p> <p>Abbeyhill of course has never been on the "South Suburban" [sic] line. But we'll let them off with that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54315 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:05:44 +0000 AKen 54315@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em> If you look at the above screenshot close up, the Globespan building is directly on site of the building straddling the rail line next to the "2602 | 597" notation on map. Assume this some sort of grain elevator. </em></p> <p>The Globespan building is actually the same building that straddled the railway. There is a photo kicking around somewhere showing a train going through the ground floor. This link isn't it but has a good view of the site anyway.</p> <p><a href="http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/151883/details/edinburgh+west+mill+road+west+mills/" rel="nofollow">http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/151883/details/edinburgh+west+mill+road+west+mills/</a></p> <p>The site seems to have been collectively known as West Mills, regardless of which bank. I guess this was to distinguish it from Spylaw Mill to the East. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54282 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:38:25 +0000 kaputnik 54282@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/708191/8923220"><img src="http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/thumb/1/2208342783.jpg"></a></p> <p>Okay jump forward to 1932 survey and West Mills has been extended across river to north bank, but still evident on south.</p> <p>If you look at the above screenshot close up, the Globespan building is directly on site of the building straddling the rail line next to the "2602 | 597" notation on map. Assume this some sort of grain elevator. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54277 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:25:36 +0000 chdot 54277@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>OK </p> <p>Scott's <em>was</em> at West Mills (south side)</p> <p><a href="http://www.scottsporage.co.uk/the-scotts-porage-story/our-heritage/#4" rel="nofollow">http://www.scottsporage.co.uk/the-scotts-porage-story/our-heritage/#4</a> </p> <p>Then it was built on north side -</p> <p><a href="http://www.scottsporage.co.uk/the-scotts-porage-story/our-heritage/#6" rel="nofollow">http://www.scottsporage.co.uk/the-scotts-porage-story/our-heritage/#6</a></p> <p>on yellow line. This might have been West Mill (don't know).</p> <p>In Globespan days it was called Colinton House. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54273 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:15:57 +0000 kaputnik 54273@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/708161/2266374"><img src="http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/thumb/1/2208135343.jpg"></a></p> <p>1914 OS 1:2500 survey </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54271 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:11:27 +0000 kaputnik 54271@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think what AKen describes matches both maps as being West Mills. Siding branches off from "main line", runs across river and into mills. What your map from book confirms though is that it was a short terminus, into some sort of exchange building where it was then loaded onto a mill tramway. The line doesn't continue any further on and cross another bridge. Apart from where the railway crosses back over the river before Juniper Green, there are no other rail bridges, so anything else I think is more likely to have been associated with the mill - perhaps something to do with water flow and control? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54269 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:08:50 +0000 Arellcat 54269@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>1893, but probably the same source of maps as chdot's book:</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beqi/6751354461/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6751354461_5358b9f050.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54268 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:06:58 +0000 chdot 54268@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thought West Mill was other side of river(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54267 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:04:44 +0000 kaputnik 54267@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's the one I described above? (West Mills)</p> <p>P.S. key on that map is Blue = Caledonian Railway, Yellow = private sidings </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54265 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:33:24 +0000 chdot 54265@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I assume is what you are referring to as the "porage mill"."</p> <p>No, it's the one the yellow line is drawn through at the edge of Spylaw Park. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54255 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:50:36 +0000 kaputnik 54255@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/707903/5897882"><img src="http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/thumb/1/2205480042.jpg"></a></p> <p>(click for bigger) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54253 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:40:24 +0000 chdot 54253@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wot k sez</p> <p><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6750428301_0120d50f44.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54246 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:38:49 +0000 kaputnik 54246@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Immediately after Colinton, if heading west, there was a junction. The main line at this point stayed north of the river, curving off to the right. The spur off the junction forked to the left, ran straight ahead, crossed the river on a bridge and into a short dead-end siding for the West Mills. This was a grain and paper mill, I assume is what you are referring to as the "porage mill".</p> <p>After the junction, the main line then crosses the river on a bridge, runs parallel and south of the river for a few hundred metres before crossing again to the north bank.</p> <p>There were no further junctions or sidings or crossings of the river before Juniper Green station is reached. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54237 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:37:44 +0000 chdot 54237@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have this at home -</p> <p><img src="http://isbn.abebooks.com/bwk/64/85/0853613664.jpg"></p> <p>Will look later. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54234 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:26:45 +0000 chdot 54234@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.railbrit.co.uk/location.php?loc=Colinton" rel="nofollow">http://www.railbrit.co.uk/location.php?loc=Colinton</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54231 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:22:03 +0000 AKen 54231@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Do any of you enthusiasts of the rails have any material pertaining to the old station at Colinton.</em></p> <p>If you carry on past the site of Colinton Station towards Juniper Green you cross a bridge just past the premises of a now defunct travel company. These were housed in a large building known locally as 'The Porage Factory'. (Scott's Porage Oats used to be milled here, I think.) If you look 50m downstream from the bridge you'll see another (disused and inaccessible) bridge. Both are former railway bridges - the one that that Water of Leith walkway goes over was the through line and the other carried a siding.</p> <p>However, there's no obvious way to fit railway tracks in so that a siding could get from the line to the second bridge. The reason for this is that the siding left the line just after the gate to Spylaw Park and went right THROUGH the Porage Factory (in a huge opening long since sealed off), emerging out of the other side and across the car park to go over the bridge and carry trains to the vanished buildings on the far bank of the river. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54100 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:54:33 +0000 kaputnik 54100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Assume this an overspill arrangement for Waverley? </em></p> <p>Quite.</p> <p>I didn't realise that the trains are quite literally stopping at the old platforms (which were still there last time I checked). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54027 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:59:25 +0000 LaidBack 54027@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As often mentioned. </p> <p>If only they made a route to Leith. Then they could park them down there and pick up some business.</p> <p>Assume this an overspill arrangement for Waverley? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54008 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:09:45 +0000 chdot 54008@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"So basically there's no reason not to reinstate the station, as the trains will be stopping there anyway."</p> <p>If only life was so simple. </p> <p>Then it would be possible to reopen the South Sub, have more than one tram stop on Princes Street etc... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54007 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:59:05 +0000 crowriver 54007@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So basically there's no reason not to reinstate the station, as the trains will be stopping there anyway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-54005 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:27:15 +0000 yeehaa 54005@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's a video of what the turnback will look like: </p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttuus7hJjAk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttuus7hJjAk</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-45578 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 00:23:10 +0000 Arellcat 45578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Multitude of daffodils and a low wall:</p> <p><a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=eh1&amp;sll=53.800651,-4.064941&amp;sspn=15.14217,30.454102&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=55.953044,-3.209553&amp;spn=0.027968,0.092096&amp;z=14">Gugolcar view</a></p> <p>I knew fine well about the Balerno branch and Ravelrig, but never spotted the remnants! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-45576 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:13:22 +0000 gembo 45576@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was going to post this one, but I bet it is the same one as you put on just there</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin_t/1_edinburgh_transport_railways_-_balerno_station.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin_t/1_edinburgh_transport_railways_-_balerno_station.htm</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-45575 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:12:27 +0000 kaputnik 45575@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin_t/1_edinburgh_transport_railways_-_balerno_station.htm">here's one for you</a>.</p> <p>Indeed they could walk. My Great Aunt and her family were of Kirkhill in Penicuik and worked in the mills there. They had relatives in Juniper Green who worked in those mills. They took it turn about to walk through the Pentlands every Sunday to go to the other's house for tea. I'm not sure if they were church goers and walked instead of church or after it. Sorry, kirk. With a meenestrrrrrrr. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294&page=2#post-45574 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:58:36 +0000 gembo 45574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>kapps - yes the siding was filled in for sure. I know people who use this as a reason for arguing against planning permission to turn the Station Master's House and the land around into Cala Development. Filled in not well enough to be built on. I will continue browsing the sight for pictures of Balerno Station [I have a book of photos somewhere too]. I think the station might have been further down heading north than the house you can see from the road [now an office for agency nurses] necessitating a bit of a walk, but in the olden days people could walk. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294#post-45573 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:35:45 +0000 druidh 45573@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was walking over the Lanark Road "flyover" today and noticed that part of the railway alignment is still visible between the canal and the pavement (on the right heading out of town). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294#post-45572 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:46:10 +0000 kaputnik 45572@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Gembo if you look at the 1914 1:2500 OS Map it is still fenced-in scrubland on the banking down to the goods station at bottom of your garden. </p> <p>Passenger station was to the north of the road on the continuation of the loop to re-join the mainline. It ran in a cutting under where the main road is now with the over-kill crash barrier between road and pavement. The road at the time had a noticeable kink in it and was parallel to the fence line beyond the little grassy space / daffodil patch. Obviously filled the cutting in to re-align the road.</p> <p>The little cottage there was the station house.</p> <p>Apparently the good people of Balerno didn't like the location of the station at the top of the hill there. They would rather it had been underneath where the high-school is, closer to the <strike>pub </strike>centre of the village. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294#post-45571 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:30:07 +0000 gembo 45571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some really interesting photos for me as several of them look like they are at the bottom of my garden before they built the school and indeed fenced in the scrubland on either side of the path where the track used to be. Scrubland that is the bottom of my garden now.</p> <p>I have pointed out to various people before that just as you come in to Balerno [heading west] on the right hand side - [in Spring just beyond the multitude of daffodils] you can see a low wall. This is actually the top of the bridge over the siding which looped the branch line down onto the Carstairs track.</p> <p>Caledonian Hotel used to have Platform Jazz in the pub on the road into Rutland Sq, A nod to the Caledonian Railway route ending there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4294#post-45569 Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:27:46 +0000 kaputnik 45569@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In fact there are 2! You can see a smaller one peeping out to the left. Marked on 1949 map for a tweed mill and a dye works at Inglis Green. </p>