http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Golden Rules of Cycling en Thu, 21 May 2026 14:30:09 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-48666 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:26:45 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 48666@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just to say, a few of these ideas have found themselves in the next issue of citycycling, online on Friday! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47050 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:23:37 +0000 minus six 47050@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When cutting up cyclist within inch of life, and making sport thereof at the next junction, a driver may find topical relief from any impending cognitive dissonance by uttering the magic phrase "you're causing chaos on the roads" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47044 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:10:00 +0000 crowriver 47044@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bibia-Touring-Bike-Cycle-Mudguard-Mud-Guard-Flap-Black-Rubber-Mudflap-/170731196491?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&amp;hash=item27c05f504">You can buy flaps</a> for your mudguards. Dutch, of course. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47043 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:04:10 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47043@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tis my brown ones on the Kaff. But yes, you can get white ones, but they have a pink stripe down the middle... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47040 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:03:24 +0000 Dave 47040@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"The new Vaverts"</em></p> <p>WHAT? You can buy white full mudguards? </p> <p>Awwww :(</p> <p>Does anyone want a pair of used-once SKS guards? ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47039 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:42:00 +0000 ruggtomcat 47039@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My SKS have both flaps! (does this sound wrong to anyone else?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47036 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:34:47 +0000 kaputnik 47036@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Just how far round the wheel would they have to go to stop any water from being sprayed up behind? </em></p> <p>I think centrifugal (centripedal?) force helps by throwing proportionately more of the water up rather than back. I notice that when it's proper wet, a lot of the water that "gets me" is actually leaking forwards and around the edges of the front guard.</p> <p>SKS chromoplastics use to come with the flaps front and rear. Now you just get a reduced flap at the front. My yellow Planet Bike ones have front and rear flaps.</p> <p>Smudge has previously offered advice on DIY flaps I think. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47033 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:14:47 +0000 chdot 47033@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mudguards with built-in flaps/turn-ups are good. </p> <p><img src="http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1vU_nEmqunzj4gU4fGgGdvA6ZQB_4FcTwd319hzwJ4KDN2FMy"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47032 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:14:15 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47032@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd be interested to know how much spray mine throw up. The new Vaverts appear longer than the SKS I had on before, <em>and</em> there's a mudflap making them even longer... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47030 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:08:31 +0000 cb 47030@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Guards' primary function is to keep the rider on the bike clean. Just how far round the wheel would they have to go to stop any water from being sprayed up behind? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47025 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:00:51 +0000 kaputnik 47025@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I do this anyway incase the cyclist ahead brakes for any reason</em></p> <p>Which "shouldn't" happen in a chain without prior warning. If it does the perpetrator is open to abuse.</p> <p>Agree with what spitters says about riding en-echelon where practical. Means you can see ahead, you aren't in their wake and if they <em>do</em> break suddenly you're less likely to run into the back.</p> <p>Also, it's just bad manners to draft someone if you're not in a chain.</p> <p>However guards keep your own bum dry. And your bike is kept cleaner, most importantly! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47022 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:56:55 +0000 DaveC 47022@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>at or just cycle 6" to their right shoulder and the spray will go over your left..."</em></p> <p>I do this anyway incase the cyclist ahead brakes for any reason... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47021 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:55:36 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47021@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been hit by spray riding 10 feet behind someone without 'guards!</p> <p>And riding up to overtake someone it's not always practical to ride out to the right from far behind - only do it if you know the road/likelihood of someone having to stop suddenly etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47020 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:52:26 +0000 amir 47020@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And the chaingang is the least likely place to find mudguards. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47019 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:51:27 +0000 spitters 47019@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>that or just cycle 6" to their right shoulder and the spray will go over your left... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47018 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:30:45 +0000 kaputnik 47018@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>cycling too close</em></p> <p>between 3 inches and no more than one-wheel distance in chain gang! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47017 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:30:25 +0000 Smudge 47017@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"not all bikes can take mudguards. ;) "</p> <p>Then if they are for the road, they are badly designed ;-)<br /> ;-p </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47016 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:22:24 +0000 Baldcyclist 47016@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm, if a cyclist was to be affected by spray from a cyclist in front, would that not suggest that they are cycling too close? What if the front cyclist had to brake sharply?<br /> Anyway, not all bikes can take mudguards. ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47015 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:06:53 +0000 kaputnik 47015@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's one for you in the spirit of fellow-cyclist bashing rather than motorist bashing :)</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaputniq/6353308741/"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6094/6353308741_7e7602e129.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-47000 Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:05:34 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47000@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>'Sheer weight of traffic' is a legitimate reason for a jam that does not implicate any drivers in being responsible for that jam.</p> <p>One bike keeping a safe line through a 10 yard road narrowing is holding a driver up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-46876 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:07:07 +0000 kaputnik 46876@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>when trying to undertake a cyclist on a roundabout, the correct procedure is to maintain your line and speed and force the inconsiderate idiot out of your way. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435&page=2#post-46875 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:00:20 +0000 recombodna 46875@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If a cyclist does something that upsets a driver the driver is allowed the endanger the cyclists life to teach them a lesson. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46874 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:36:44 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 46874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cars would be quicker than bikes if it wasn't for the traffic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46873 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:26:10 +0000 amir 46873@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bicycles are toys and therefore for children only. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46871 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:07:35 +0000 Smudge 46871@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's no point putting in cycle racks because no-one will use them and besides, they'll always be clogged up with so many bikes there's no space... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46865 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:44:53 +0000 Dave 46865@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"DO NOT CYCLE AT NIGHT" </em></p> <p>You say this as a joke, but a well known manufacturer of not-cheap, small-wheeled utility/child toting tandems actually ships them out with a manual with a similar warning: "it is not recommended to cycle at night".</p> <p>This is unfortunate since 100% of potential buyers in this country will have to ride at night at least one end of the day, at least a third of the year... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46863 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:39:56 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 46863@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spending money putting cycling infrastructure onto that bit of road is pointless because no-one cycles there...</p> <p>(I've always loved that particular bit of logic) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46852 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:09:23 +0000 chdot 46852@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The "traffic" would move so much smoother and quicker if they'd just "synchronise" the lights (so that they're always at green whenever I approach them)"</p> <p>I know you sort of mean the opposite, but that's exactly what 'they' try to do. </p> <p>The problem is that the aim is get 'traffic' going at 'motor' rather cycle speed. </p> <p>The further problem is of course (especially with Edinburgh's central area grid road system) that this 'progress' doesn't last for long. </p> <p>I've been told, off the record, that at least one 'radial route' has been retimed recently to favour 'traffic' over pedestrians at push button crossings. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46851 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:04:48 +0000 spitters 46851@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All cyclists should be bald as the rain and helmets mess up your hair </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4435#post-46850 Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:04:08 +0000 Roibeard 46850@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Advance Stop Zones allow the alert driver to get ahead of dozy cyclists. This zone is clearly marked by the "no cyclists" pictogram. Cyclists should, for their own safety, be prevented from using this dangerous area - which otherwise would place them squarely between the wheels of following vehicles.</p> <p>___</p> <p>Cyclists intending to travel straight on, in a cycle lane, should clearly signal their intent to vehicles turning left across that lane. Signalling by drivers is optional, and only required if cyclists insist in occupying the lane, at which point signalling encourages the errant cyclist to change lanes, hence permitting smooth traffic flow.</p> <p>Robert </p>