http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Cycling Infrastructure Tour en Sun, 17 May 2026 11:27:13 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466&page=2#post-56345 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:34:55 +0000 ExcitableBoy 56345@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good: Along the seafront at Silverknowes/Cramond. The majority of cycle paths,...</p> <p>Bad: Cobbles here, cobbles there, cobbles everywhere.</p> <p>Ugly: &gt;90% road surfaces. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466&page=2#post-56334 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:16:27 +0000 Cyclingmollie 56334@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Almost any right turn at traffic lights in heavy traffic - by the time the last car has come through on red you're getting hassled by the cars entering the junction on green from either side. And they <em>never</em> seem to realise that it's not your fault. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466&page=2#post-56333 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:11:08 +0000 wingpig 56333@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"For downright dangerous, I'd put the ASL opposite King's Theatre at end of Lower Gilmore Place. If you sit in it to turn right, buses coming from Tollcross and making a left right at King's clip the corner of the ASL reservoir quite significantly. If you were waiting far out on the right to make a right turn you can be in serious danger of being mushed by the bus."</em></blockquote></p> <p>You get a similar effect waiting to turn up Earl Grey Street out of Lauriston Place. When I went that way every day I'd sit with all lights on right in the corner glowering at traffic cutting across from Home Street, ready to leap backwards if one looked to be cutting it too fine. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466&page=2#post-47527 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:45:21 +0000 PS 47527@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>North St Andrew Street has been free of parked vehicles the past two days, with no-parking cones in all the areas previously occupied by the contractors' cars/vans.</p> <p>A sign of things to come? Or just the Portrait Gallery contractors clearing out before the tramworks kick off again? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466&page=2#post-47519 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:45:39 +0000 kaputnik 47519@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That was a productive 21 minutes! All red though. I'll find some greens at some point. Honest! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466&page=2#post-47513 Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:23:06 +0000 kaputnik 47513@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Adding some now </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47399 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:49:40 +0000 chdot 47399@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Oh, on the subject of Missoni Lane, I walked past on Friday night and with the resurfacing in the area, the red feeder lane has now extended back across the mouth of Victoria Street almost to (I think) Central Library."</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6378186769/"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6378186769_e517901e56.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6378186769/">New red</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/chdot/">chdot</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47386 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:57:51 +0000 SRD 47386@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>chicanes past the ring road don't fit tandems! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47382 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:32:48 +0000 steveo 47382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The chicanes on the canal could do with some reflectives so that they are a bit more visible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47378 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:03:27 +0000 Kirst 47378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chicanes on the Innocent just east of Duddingston Road West are painted black and are very difficult to see in the dark if the streetlights nearby are out. They would benefit from something reflective. Chicanes on the Embra side of the Hope Lane bridge are awkward. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47353 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:30:50 +0000 kaputnik 47353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes excellent map A-cat, I shall try add a few more of my own this evening. I have a feeling they may mainly be red!</p> <p>I believe this is known in the future as "crowdsourcing" or something. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47348 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:23:56 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47348@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Melville Drive in general being parked on at the weekends.</p> <p>And in a similar, even more annoying, way - Ferry Road - the cycle lane is an <em>official</em> car park for sporting events at the playing fields.</p> <p>Eyre Place contraflow is awkward to exit at the lights end. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47346 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:19:41 +0000 crowriver 47346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Great map, Arelicat. I'm adding them directly on Gugol now... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47343 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:16:02 +0000 wingpig 47343@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bruntsfield Place (uphill/southbound approaching the Looming Church of St. Barclay) and Holyrood Road (uphill/westbound just before the Moray House crossing) have some good examples of cycle-lane-feeds-directly-into-pinch-point.</p> <p>Turning-into-Seafield-Road-from-King's-Road-or-Porty-High-Street has nice big fresh advanced stop zones unfortunately coupled with traffic lights which don't detect lone cyclists (unless they've since been fixed after I reported them). The mandatory leave-the-road (for cyclists, teensy motorbikes and horses) to stop them cluttering up the West Approach Road (westbound) any further than Canning Street similarly doesn't detect solo bicycles (unless it's also been fixed since being reported).</p> <p>Considering the proximity to the end of the cycle-compatible WoL path, the almost paint-free junction of The Shore/Henderson Gardens/Sandport Bridge must be particularly dispiriting to people not used to it. Similarly, the nearby one-way warren around Tollbooth Wynd/Water St makes getting to the WoL from the direction of Leith Links less pleasant than it could be. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47337 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:57:10 +0000 cb 47337@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some more bad:</p> <p>- NCR link between the Innocent and the Meadows. Stipid fenced off bit at the end of Gifford Park would be a good place for the map pin.</p> <p>- Stupid bumpy ramp by the Telfer subway (well, it's ok going downhill)</p> <p>- Stupid zigzag slope by the W. Approach Road crossing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47335 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:30:29 +0000 SRD 47335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cycled the canal last night in the dark for the first time since lights went in. really quite nice.</p> <p>Great map arellcat! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47334 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:27:34 +0000 Arellcat 47334@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think people habitually walk on the side of a path that's furthest from perceived danger. This becomes the side away from the canal, or the western side of the path through Braidburn Valley. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47333 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:23:24 +0000 chdot 47333@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"lights along canalside"</p> <p>Last night -</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6371963129/"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6211/6371963129_62860f7a37.jpg"></a></p> <p>(this is the digitally lightened version)</p> <p>WHY do people gravitate to the 'wrong' side?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47330 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:15:49 +0000 Arellcat 47330@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Keep them coming, folks!</p> <p><a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=209737842711828293504.0004b23ebd5637d894842&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=55.937153,-3.235543&amp;spn=0.002238,0.004812">Gugol Map of poor (and good) infrastructure in Edinburgh</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47306 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:40:36 +0000 SRD 47306@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@kaputnik. true, but since Tarvit street makes more sense when heading for Gilmore place, and Brunstfield/Morningside is better reached across the meadows/links, I tend not to want to go that direction. Would be handy for co-op runs and Lupe Pintos, I suppose! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47304 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:38:04 +0000 kaputnik 47304@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD or from right to left to right in the opposite direction! Then presents you with a no entry road (which it should be perfectly feasible to make 2-way for cyclsits)</p> <p>A lot of the ones I've suggested so far are confusing and inconvenient.</p> <p>For downright dangerous, I'd put the ASL opposite King's Theatre at end of Lower Gilmore Place. If you sit in it to turn right, buses coming from Tollcross and making a <strike>left</strike> right at King's clip the corner of the ASL reservoir quite significantly. If you were waiting far out on the right to make a right turn you can be in serious danger of being mushed by the bus.</p> <p>There's similar one on Gorgie Road at junction with Roberston Ave / Wheatfield with a similar problem caused by buses turning out of Robertson Avenue or Grain lorries turning out of Wheatfield from the distillery, and they have set the ASL reservoir back by about 15 feet to keep you in a safer zone (although still very intimdating to be sat stationary in the box with a lorry or bus swinging towards you) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47302 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:32:45 +0000 SRD 47302@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The link between valleyfield st and the meadows, where in the space of about 10 metres, the cycle path shifts from <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&amp;ll=55.941706,-3.201079&amp;spn=0.000006,0.004823&amp;hnear=Edinburgh+EH11+1HZ,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=m&amp;z=18&amp;vpsrc=6&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=55.941706,-3.201079&amp;panoid=uyRtgrOPFdwda5ON4ULJig&amp;cbp=12,66.98,,0,0">the lefthand side of the path</a> to the <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&amp;ll=55.941948,-3.200396&amp;spn=0.001127,0.004823&amp;hnear=Edinburgh+EH11+1HZ,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=m&amp;z=18&amp;vpsrc=6&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=55.941948,-3.200397&amp;panoid=T5ixxZ5abS1GwIcdtcgHLw&amp;cbp=11,238.99,,0,8.71">right hand side</a> and then <a href="http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&amp;ll=55.941948,-3.200396&amp;spn=0.001127,0.004823&amp;hnear=Edinburgh+EH11+1HZ,+United+Kingdom&amp;t=m&amp;z=18&amp;vpsrc=6&amp;layer=c&amp;cbll=55.941948,-3.200397&amp;panoid=T5ixxZ5abS1GwIcdtcgHLw&amp;cbp=11,35.34,,0,-2.2">back to the left </a> once we cross melville Drive </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47297 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:25:47 +0000 crowriver 47297@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good: </p> <p>Five ways junction area<br /> Lochend path (the bit that's been tarmacced)<br /> Holyrood Park going South uphill (from zebra crossing onwards)</p> <p>Bad:</p> <p>Leith Walk (just about anywhere)<br /> Link route between Granton and Silverknowes path (chicanes, bumpy, overgrown, ends with a gap in a fence, busy road to cross then poorly designed access through car parking)<br /> Lochend path (Seafield steps access)<br /> Holyrood Park (going East from zebra crossing; also poorly designed access at top of South end of Queen's Drive)<br /> Pelican crossing at end of Fishwives Causeway (big sign showing cycle route acts as a chicane when trying to go to crossing, which is not aligned with causeway but left; steep incline of dropped kerb tries to tip you off your bike when reaching button; sequence very slow, favours motorist with long wait for cyclists/pedestrians) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47292 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:55:55 +0000 Smudge 47292@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bad:<br /> Road surfaces destroyed by buses/made dangerous by parking - Haymarket out to the Diggers.</p> <p>"Resurfacing" turning a slightly muddy cycle path into an energy sapping (equally manky) sludge - Old Railway from the canal out past Colinton :-/</p> <p>Good:<br /> Tarmac and (hun landing) lights along canalside, actually very nice to ride at night (though it could be improved at bridges!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47288 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:38:39 +0000 amir 47288@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Loads of on street cycle lanes with difficult surfaces (basically because it's the gutter?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47287 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:35:33 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 47287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>North St Andrew Street as well. Still a contractors' car park, including the pavement cycle lane. The crossing is still in operation from Dublin Street with the lovely green and red bicycles, but once you're across Queen Street there's nowhere to go! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47286 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:30:39 +0000 kaputnik 47286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot I noticed those signs recently too. There is another one at the other portal of the tunnel. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47285 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:30:37 +0000 SRD 47285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>North Meadow Walk - especially at night is very exciting. I stopped twice the other night just on the east-most section, thinking I had either run over something or had something fall off the bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47284 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:30:05 +0000 kaputnik 47284@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh and for "good infrastrucure" - Porty Prom :)</p> <p>Oh and for "bad infrastructure" - abrupt and confusing termination of Silverknowes Prom &gt; Granton extension that forces you to either bump off pavement, or if you want to use the dropped kerb, navigate through the barriers then enter facing INTO the traffic rather than in same direction. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4466#post-47283 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:27:53 +0000 wingpig 47283@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A selection of the paths/'facilities' spoilt by street furniture/parking/uselessness as depicted in the "barriers to cycling in Edinburgh" Flickr group. You'd definitely want to include going through Haymarket in a couple of directions and some of the Torphichen/Morrison/Fountainbridge area no-exception one-way kerfuffle. Compare the red-paint-having Haymarket with the red-paint-free Leith Street and London Road roundabouts. Marchmont Road's parking extension-zone bike path and the Argyle Place Thing. The lumpy surface of North Meadow Walk. The mess at the Roseburn end of the NEPN and the Balgreen exit of the Carrick Knowe path. Contrasted to the rest of the NEPN, the usable bits of the WoL, the Innocent and some of the handier cycle-compatible cuts-through it would demonstrate the difference between useful hassle-reducing facilities and box-ticking. </p>