<?xml version="1.0"?><!-- generator="bbPress" -->

<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
>

<channel>
<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</link>
<description>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?</description>
<language>en</language>
<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>

<item>
<title>SRD on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448&amp;page=2#post-87598</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>SRD</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">87598@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;and here's the original thread, for those who missed it first (and second) time round.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Uberuce on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448&amp;page=2#post-63080</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Uberuce</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">63080@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Build ejector seats for the little aliens that control the swans.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What, you didn't know swans are merely biotomatons controlled by shy but easily displeased extraterrestrials stranded on Earth after their spaceship crashed? Well, now you do.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I can prove it. Any alien technology capable of crossing the unthinkably vast depths of interstellar space would plainly be able to manange landing, right? Well, look at how hilariously ungainly swans when landing or taking flight. That's why they're stuck here. Proof.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>chdot on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448&amp;page=2#post-63072</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">63072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;After the new (annual) &#60;a href=&#34;http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5905&#34;&#62;toad thread&#60;/a&#62; thought I'd resurrect this from the CCE archive.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Come a long way in 2 years (but not very far).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(There was even a competition - &#60;a href=&#34;http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=454&#34;&#62;Golden Swan Award&#60;/a&#62;)
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>chdot on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3947</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3947@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.flickr.com/photos/stu_kerr/4438497369/&#34;&#62;Found some more swans&#60;/a&#62;.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>spytfyre on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3500</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>spytfyre</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3500@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Deport them to Linlithgow loch as Asylum beakers...
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>chdot on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3478</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3478@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;This is where the swans should be.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4416498927&#34;&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;img src=&#34;http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4416498927_08d6914927.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(The bike was an accident!)
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>LaidBack on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3397</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LaidBack</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3397@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm about to announce the winner of the Golden Swan Award... &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Over on other thread....
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Kim on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3389</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3389@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;That was four hours ago!
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Cyclingmollie on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3378</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Cyclingmollie</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Sheesh Anth even Davina doesn't keep people waiting three hours.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3375</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3375@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;*fiddles with bow tie*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*holds gold envelope*
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>chdot on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3374</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3374@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;I heard that too...
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>LaidBack on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3373</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LaidBack</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3373@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Much mention of Swan Vestas by &#60;a href=&#34;http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=451&#34;&#62;Tom on BBC Radio Scotland&#60;/a&#62;. I've heard that a winner may have been decided.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3372</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3372@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Hehehehe, nah, it's a cracking shot!
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>miggy_magic on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3371</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>miggy_magic</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3371@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Aye, no bother anth, with pleasure :-)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you click on the image you should get to my flickr page which has a higher resolution version although that exposes my pisspoor Photoshop skills even more!
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3370</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wilmington&#039;s Cow</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3370@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;This is too good to be left just on the forum - everyone okay if I pillage this for a short piece in citycycling (going online tonight!)? I'll stick a link back directly to the thread. And Miggy, can I use that image???
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>SRD on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3368</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>SRD</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3368@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Tell everyone that they are a rare breed of long-necked baby seals, and you'd get hordes of celebrities out 'protecting' them.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>wee folding bike on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3367</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>wee folding bike</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3367@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Following the Brown/Blair doctrine I would protect the swans in Edinburgh by attacking the ducks on the other side of the world. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Expect a shock and awe event in Drumpelier country park any day now.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>LaidBack on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3365</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LaidBack</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks. I also might ask the 'moderators' to judge.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Min on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3360</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;You seem to be able to create polls on this forum so give it a go!
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>LaidBack on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3358</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LaidBack</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3358@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Impressed with the amount of thought that has gone into all of these suggestions. Can I do a ballot?
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Cyclingmollie on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3354</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Cyclingmollie</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;'S easy. Set up some fake swans filled with high explosive. Drivers would learn to avoid them if they knew that they also faced death in a collision with one. The Evening News would help spread the word. Simples.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Min on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3353</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;ROFL, genius!
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>miggy_magic on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3352</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>miggy_magic</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3352@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcgeown/4404138245&#34;&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4038/4404138245_9bb4c19b81.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;/a&#62;
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>miggy_magic on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3351</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>miggy_magic</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3351@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;strong&#62;Prisoners&#60;/strong&#62; should be employed by Her Majesty as &#34;swan wardens&#34; to ensure they maintain adherence to non-road areas. Errant birds could be encouraged back into safe areas by following a bit of bread on a stick held by a swan warden.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This would be a prudent economical solution and would also assist the prisoners' reintegration into society.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Violent inmates or those with swan allergies would of course be exempt.&#60;/em&#62;
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>LaidBack on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3350</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LaidBack</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3350@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Many of these suggestions sound incredibly believable. I'm worried now... !
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Arellcat on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3348</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Arellcat</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3348@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Clearly CEC has no outright power to make improvements to the area, so it should make representations to the Queen, requesting a swan dispersal and relocation order.  A suitable replacement site should be identified through the formation of a dedicated Holyrood/RSPB task force, which will produce a 400 page report detailing pond slope angles, current and predicted nesting requirements for the next 25 years, a full methodology for ensuring consistent water quality, a swan removal and relocation contract specification, and a proposal to Parliament for a new Swan Safety (Scotland) Bill.  This will require approximately six years to enact in law.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Min on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3347</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3347@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Well if swans wore vests it will keep then warm in winter too. ;-)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Dave-&#34;Also, let's not forget that the innocent hard-done by drivers are paying &#34;road tax&#34; while the swans are freeloading. &#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think you are being unfair. They should ALSO have to pay fuel tax on all the waterweed and Kingsmill they eat.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Laidback-&#34;We could set up a group of 'Swan Trainers' to teach them how to use them. So this could become a useful source of employment. Good one. &#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not only that but drivers will then be fully justified in mowing down any swan which may deviate from the Swanway. If they don't want to scratch their car they can always just scream and swear instead.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Stepdoh on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3346</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Stepdoh</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;I remember seeing something about 'Swan Vestas' that were good for lighting up? Is that some sort of high vis thing?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sorry.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>LaidBack on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3345</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>LaidBack</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3345@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;'Segregated Swanways'&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We could set up a group of 'Swan Trainers' to teach them how to use them. So this could become a useful source of employment. Good one.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>
<item>
<title>Dave on "How would you make the swans in Holyrood park safer from traffic?"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=448#post-3344</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
<guid isPermaLink="false">3344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/</guid>
<description>&#60;p&#62;Clearly the reason they are being run down is because they're not doing enough to be visible to drivers. I mean, it's hard enough trying to apply makeup while on the phone at 40mph in a 20 zone without having to look out for swans not wearing high viz and without lights!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Also, let's not forget that the innocent hard-done by drivers are paying &#34;road tax&#34; while the swans are freeloading. Until swans pay the same as drivers, they'll just have to watch out!
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
</item>

</channel>
</rss>
