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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E</title>
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<title>custard on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Kirst Ha! I was just saying the same last night for myself,&#60;br /&#62;
a year gone(or there abouts)
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<title>DaveC on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Just rereading this. Hope you are able to make a good recovery (you have siad you'll never make a full recovery).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Dave C
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Happy anniversary to my broken pelvis. Be careful people.
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<title>chdot on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Only just come across this - &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://m.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/martin-hannan-these-clods-are-just-ripe-for-a-fall-1-1227436&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://m.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/martin-hannan-these-clods-are-just-ripe-for-a-fall-1-1227436&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You know what the ENews is like for links to 'related stories'. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;br /&#62;
You may say that it's not the council's fault the weather has been horrendous, that lack of gritting was a problem across the country, and I agree with you. But that does not excuse the utterly pathetic response of Edinburgh City Council to the big freeze.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I had my own painful encounter with an ice-encrusted pavement, fortunately landing on my well-padded posterior with no great damage done. I had to go into work in the city and risk walking down that Cresta Run called the Pleasance. This was at least six days after the heaviest snowfall, and still the pavements were ice rinks – you didn't need to pay to get into the Winter Wonderland when you could skate for free on most pavements.&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>chdot on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Apparently -&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;br /&#62;
There is a commitment to include the main off-road routes in the gritting programme from this winter onwards, subject to ensuring they can get suitable access for the machines.&#60;/p&#62;
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<title>custard on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Terrible news Kirst&#60;br /&#62;
I had a slide on the innocent ice not long before you&#60;br /&#62;
just luck of the draw on the landing &#38;amp; consequences :(
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Kirst</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Gembo, it has been raised with the council a thousand times and they are looking at it.
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<title>Uberuce on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sympathy, Kirst.
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<title>gembo on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 11:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Bad news for Kirst. Commiserations.  I don't suppose we can collectively work out a system of gritting it ourselves to stop this happening again?, no help to Kirst I know.
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<title>Tom on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I've been on that stretch of &#34;cycle path&#34; when it was so icy I could push my bike along it sideways for many tens of metres. I'm sure if you wanted to start a petition to have something done every other cyclist on this forum who has experienced the same conditions would sign it and urge others to do the same. I know that's no help to you though.
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That remains to be seen.
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<title>Arellcat on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Kirst, that's really awful. :(&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Does CEC have any responsibility in this?  I mean, here they are, maintaining(ish) a core path for walkers and cyclists to use, and they must therefore reasonably expect people to use it in all weathers, and yet have failed in their duty of care to ensure that it's consistently safe by failing to carry out treatment and inspection.  If someone poked their eye out on an overhanging branch, or broke their ankle on a cracked piece of tarmac, 'surely' there would be cause for remedial works, both in policy and operationally, and a duty of compensation to the individual.
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<title>Min on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Flipping heck Kirst, I am so sorry. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I do hope the steroids work, best of luck.
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Really sorry to hear that prognosis. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;regarding the steroids, my Dad had his first injection a few weeks back and it worked really well (and he's got a bad track record with pain relief). Hoping yours goes well too.
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Kirst</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I had my appointment yesterday. The good news is he's not doing an arthroscopy. The bad news is that's because he feels it won't help and will just cause more disruption within the joint. The even worse news is my hip is fecked and there's nothing to be done about it. The compression that caused the fracture has damaged the medial surfaces of the acetabulum and femoral head (the ball and socket) so I am going to have pain and limited movement there forever. Well, not forever, because the other bit of news is that barring a miracle the joint will develop arthritis, probably in the next 10 years, so at some point, probably before I retire, I will almost certainly need a hip replacement. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Model cycling city? Guess how I feel about that.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm being referred for a steroid injection into the joint to see if that can relieve the pain but, as he put it &#34;some people get total long lasting pain relief, some get relief for several months at a thme and for some people it makes no difference at all and there's no way of knowing which one you'll be.&#34; And because the injection has to go so deep into the joint, they have to do it via ultrasound guidance. So that'll be fun.
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;just shows how much damage a 'simple' off can cause!
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'll be seeing Mr Gaston on 23rd August. I suppose there's always the possibility he'll decide not to do the arthroscopy but assuming he does, there's a guaranteed waiting time of no more than 18 weeks, so it should be done by Christmas. A year after I came off.
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<title>Nelly on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 22:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thats a *#* kirst, but at least with summer weather you will be exercising outside a lot.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Spinal &#38;amp; sedation is odd. Chatting away to anaesthetist one minute, wake up in post op feeling great the next! You can almost select how much sedation you want - i.e. in a dreamstate, or (my case) knocked out.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Epidural is a nice warm feeling coming on - wierd when it starts wearing off, but not in a bad way.
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 21:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I've just had a long chat with a friend of mine who is an OT in elective orthopaedics and knows the surgeon well. Regardless of what the surgeon does during the arthroscopy, I can expect at least 6-8 weeks of what he calls protected flat foot weightbearing on crutches post-op, and perhaps longer if he does a procedure which needs longer healing time. No hip precautions as such in terms of range of movement, although some hip flexion might be painful. The surgeon is very keen on patients maintaining as much normal function as possible, so he won't be recommending sitting at home and watching Jeremy Kyle, but there's absolutely no way I'll be able to manage my own job on crutches, so I foresee a temporary posting to a desk job. Oh, and the good news is, he usually does his scopes under local and sedation, or spinal and sedation, so I almost certainly won't be getting general anaesthesia, which is a great relief to me as I have a real fear of it.
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<title>tammytroot on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 15:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sincere sympathy Kirst, I had a mahoosive fracture of my right leg back in '85 (not bike related). Took nearly a year before I was completely healed, but it DID heal eventually. Hope yours clears up a lot sooner!&#60;br /&#62;
Get well soon.
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 13:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I actually feel gloomier today than I did when it happened. Probably because it's 5 months on, I'm still in pain, the most cycling I can do is a few miles at a time, and it's a beautiful day and I'm at work while my boyfriend cycles from Chelmsford to see me - he crossed the Tyne today (on the Shields ferry, not by cycling over the water). And it could so easily have been avoided.
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<title>chdot on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 13:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Definitely one where anyone using off-road paths in winter -&#60;em&#62; or wanting to &#60;/em&#62;- should contact their 'new' councillors. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's nice and warm so not many people are thinking ice/danger/salt/grit/ActiveTravel.
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<title>amir on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;+ 1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I hope the council are aware
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 13:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Oh for crying out loud. Pretty much the direct result of the path not being treated despite repeated warnings that something like this might happen over the course of a number of years.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am very unimpressed on your behalf &#38;gt;:(
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 13:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It's investigatory. No choice of surgeon - Mr Gaston is the only one who can scope hips. Colleagues tell me he's excellent.
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<title>Nelly on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Kirst, what is the arthroscopy for, FAI or a labral tear?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It might not be as bad as you think recovery-wise. If I can offer one bit of advice, it is around surgeon choice - &#60;strong&#62;if&#60;/strong&#62; there is any possibiliy of choosing one from another, you can google them and their specialities / success rates.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The guy who did my hip resurfacing was Paul Gaston - he was excellent, specialised in hip problems in younger patients, he is also a cyclist / skier, so understood exactly where I wanted to be recovery-wise.
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 11:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have just been googling hip arthroscopies. I can expect at least 2 weeks on crutches afterwards. *sigh*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am sighing so much this morning, it's like I've turned into Kevin &#38;amp; Perry. lomrspattisonsigh
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<description>&#60;p&#62;+1, sympathies, keep your chin up pal :-/
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<title>Min on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 11:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Jeez Kirst. All I can offer is sympathy. :-(
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<title>Kirst on "Icy Innocent incident indicates A&#38;E"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 11:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I was back at fracture clinic today for a review, because &#60;em&#62;it's still not right&#60;/em&#62;. Was seen by the cycling surgeon (who is a hand surgeon, not a hip surgeon, but the person I was booked to see is a shoulder surgeon, so there you go) and re-X-rayed, and I''m being referred for hip arthroscopy. *sigh*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No cycling holiday in France for me this year. Nothing other than short distances on the bike. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Model cycling city my arse.
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