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Naughty forumite! en Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:44:43 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54566 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:21:34 +0000 Dave 54566@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Na, politicians are vulnerable in ways that ordinary people aren't (for instance, public opinion would never suffer them to cycle past an advisory - and stupid - dismount sign). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54545 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:33:31 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 54545@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dave, you'd make a cracking politician... ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54537 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:20:16 +0000 LaidBack 54537@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><strong>Dave</strong> <em>Sure you have videos of your road techniques that the forum could look at ;-)?<br /> </em><br /> I often use the right hand lane on George IV bridge to make a left turn up into Lawnmarket. This is to defeat the bike lane problem. Not legal and depends on goodwill of other road users and cycling quickly... Safer though than getting squeezed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54504 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:52:08 +0000 Dave 54504@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't know whether 'protest' is the right word. I find it irritating when I'm riding through the junction on the left, there's a car to the right of me and then we all get in trouble because there's a car to the right of *that car* trying to cut in from the right turn lane. By going in to the right turn lane and not racing across the junction I feel like some balance is returned, the clutch-burners are foiled, happiness reigns. If the penalty is that I need to ride the other two sides of the rectangle I can usually live with it :)</p> <p>Of course, as a city cyclist I often take advantage of my manoeuvrability to ride in the "wrong" lane past a queue and then change lanes through a few inches gap to proceed. </p> <p>For instance, when riding down North Bridge, only the middle lane is correct for Leith St but the queue is often &gt; 1 full phase of the lights, so I ride down the right, normally, and then move in at the front, or if it starts moving before I get there, when a driver makes a gap. The irony is not lost on me (I suppose the difference is I wouldn't race a driver and then turn into them to force them to yield, a la the first situation we discuss?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54497 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:25:44 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 54497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>... Sometimes they won't get freed up until the end of the light sequence, then I just ride through</em>"</p> <p>I might be reading this wrong, but it sounds like you protest about drivers driving straight on in a right-turn-only lane by riding straight on in a right-turn-only lane? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54492 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:03:59 +0000 DaveC 54492@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wasnae me. If I cycled into work and crossed North Bright I'd be kind of lost. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54490 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:03:00 +0000 ruggtomcat 54490@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I see a fair amount or RLJing, both cars and bikes. about once a week I guess. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54489 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:01:03 +0000 Dave 54489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My favourite excitement at that junction is when a car or two go up the right-turn lane on North Bridge with the clear intention of racing straight across rather than turning right.</p> <p>Riding in front of them and sitting there with your right arm stuck out - priceless!</p> <p>Of course, there's then some difficulty about not turning right yourself. Sometimes they won't get freed up until the end of the light sequence, then I just ride through, sometimes there's a gap first and I'm forced to turn right... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54479 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:32:51 +0000 wingpig 54479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Serendipitous, after your discussions yesterday.<br /> The Royal Mile is good for practising behaving correctly at lights, particularly turning right down the Canongate from St Mary's Street in the evening when there's a lot of fun-to-ignore pressure from cars queueing behind to turn right when the lights turn red before you've passed the stop line. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54473 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:20:42 +0000 Min 54473@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Caught bang to rights you were. Cuff 'im Anth! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54467 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:11:23 +0000 Instography 54467@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm going to steal the word 'anecdata' and pass it off as my own.</p> <p>Damn. It's already in Urban Dictionary.</p> <p>Double drat. It's already in a proper dictionary. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54458 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:54:16 +0000 Dave 54458@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>To be fair, I reckon I can extend the above to say that I see an average of zero RLJ's from any road user. I don't count amber gambling though - if I did I'd need a notepad just to get through the town centre!</p> <p>Interesting to wonder if this represents a social softening a la speeding. I don't speed, but I don't feel that society would have anything to say about it if I did, whereas I'm quite happy to roll through amber in the car / on the bike, whether I'm last or not. (Would have driven through this morning, for instance, and nobody would bat an eyelid). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54452 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:43:57 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 54452@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I particularly liked, "<em>in my own anecdata, I notice an average of zero RLJ cyclists per day on my commute</em>"</p> <p>:D </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54449 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:42:29 +0000 Dave 54449@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sad to say, I was trying to follow the car rather than watching the lights. I was in the junction before it went red though, and didn't feel like stopping to let the van turn in front (he hadn't started moving yet).</p> <p>Still, it's a technical violation - amber gambling, guilty as charged! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54446 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:33:54 +0000 cb 54446@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wasn't me. This morning the Green Light was my friend - probably less than 10s spent waiting at the red in total. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54445 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:30:54 +0000 Stepdoh 54445@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So if we all check off that it wusnae us, by the powers of elimination... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5111#post-54442 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:02:59 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 54442@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I shall not name and shame, but this morning I spotted one of our number jump the lights at North Bridge as it crosses the Royal Mile. Arnold Clark hire van had been waiting to turn up the mile, and having had to wait for a car coming the other way that I initially thought was cutting it fine, our intrepid forumite appeared from some way behind the car. Van man brakes (as does forumite, before riding off again), van man makes turn after and toots horn.</p> <p>You can never hide from CCE.... ;)</p> <p>All I will say is that it wasn't Min, who I encountered running at the top of Johnston Terrace (she somewhat less out of puff than I). </p>