http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Newbridge - Kirkliston - Dalmeny Railway Path en Wed, 10 Jun 2026 01:45:06 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-329309 Thu, 07 May 2020 16:14:53 +0000 CycleAlex 329309@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks all, went for a ride to South Queensferry via NCN1 and back via the railway path and QR9. It was all rather pretty with the orange glow of the sunset in the background.</p> <p>The path was perfectly passable and an enjoyable ride. Only bit that seems like it could be a pain was a short section of dense tree cover where it was quite damp. Oh, and the rather low pipe across the path...</p> <p>Could definitely do with some signage though! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-329218 Wed, 06 May 2020 17:59:05 +0000 gembo 329218@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was this the port Edgar hat? What was the end of that story? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-329217 Wed, 06 May 2020 17:21:47 +0000 wingpig 329217@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In hot pursuit of a hat, or just normal?<br /> If it hasn't been trimmed since December it'll be a bit narrow if you encounter other users... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-329211 Wed, 06 May 2020 16:10:00 +0000 Arellcat 329211@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It was liquid mud back in January when I was in pursuit of a hat, but it's a nice path otherwise. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-329210 Wed, 06 May 2020 16:08:55 +0000 HankChief 329210@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It'll be dry mud just now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-329209 Wed, 06 May 2020 16:02:53 +0000 CycleAlex 329209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does anyone happen to know what the surface of the path is like now? Or am I overly optimistic in thinking that it's been improved in the last 5/8 years?</p> <p>My friend and I were quite temped to cycle it having explored QR9 yesterday but we figured the middle of the night probably wasn't the ideal time to discover a new, seemingly unlit path. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176990 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 22:54:55 +0000 LaidBack 176990@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Crazy that this loop hasn't been sorted. Line capacity is maxed out and this would allow trains to go round delays. Travellers to Fife will have an extra bridge in the not distant future - improving the train route would cost a fraction... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176920 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 12:19:07 +0000 DaveC 176920@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a morning train from Dalmeny to Glasgow. It comes from further up the line and calls at Dalgety Bay also. I was told the maximum numbr of trains an hour over the Forth Bridge is 22. I wonder if the number of trains running over to fife will be reduced to cater for these trains having to 'turn around' in Dalmeny? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176914 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:52:26 +0000 fimm 176914@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are already 4 trains per hour, two faster and two slower, on the Airdrie - Bathgate line. I have no idea if it would be possible to squeeze any more in. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176916 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:52:07 +0000 Morningsider 176916@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>cb - my understanding is that the Dalmeny Chord has been kicked into the very long grass of EGIP phase 2. Phase 2 is currently unfunded and due to be delivered from 2025 onwards. If it is going to be built (a big if, in my opinion) then you are looking at it opening around 2030 at the earliest. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176915 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:50:50 +0000 richardlmpearson 176915@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It would be good if they stopped at Dalmeny and you could get a direct train to Glasgow from Dalmeny. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176903 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:17:35 +0000 kaputnik 176903@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wonder if there will be more capacity (more or longer trains) or faster (i.e. less stops) services run along the Airdrie-Bathgate route during this time? No? Of course not, that would be sensible... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176902 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 11:07:06 +0000 cb 176902@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Presume still no plan to build?"</p> <p>From the article (my bold):</p> <p>"Roderick McDougall, vice-chair of independent campaigners Railfuture (Scotland), said: “We deprecate [Scottish Government agency] Transport Scotland’s insistence in closing the Winchburgh tunnel, causing major disruption to passengers both on the main Glasgow to Edinburgh route and the Stirling to Edinburgh, before constructing the Almond Chord, particularly as they have admitted that it is <strong>still intended to build it</strong>." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176900 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 10:33:58 +0000 chdot 176900@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"should have been built first"</p> <p>Presume still no plan to build? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-176897 Tue, 06 Jan 2015 10:26:34 +0000 cb 176897@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> The Winchburgh tunnel in West Lothian is being closed as part of the £750 million electrification of the line to enable faster and longer trains to run.</p> <p>During the work, journeys are expected to take up to 50 per cent longer than normal because trains will be diverted via Dalmeny, beside the Forth Bridge, then have to reverse on to another line.<br /> "</p> <p>"<br /> Rail campaigners said a new section of track – the “Almond Chord”, enabling trains to run via Dalmeny without reversing – should have been built first<br /> "</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-glasgow-trains-face-summer-of-disruption-1-3651902">http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-glasgow-trains-face-summer-of-disruption-1-3651902</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-128027 Fri, 11 Oct 2013 11:51:56 +0000 chdot 128027@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Worth mentioning that apparently the planned new rail lines, the Almond (or Dalmeny) Chord, will mean that Standingstane Road will be realigned onto the cycle track through the cutting under the Milton Road bridge. "</p> <p>Not any more -</p> <p>"<br /> A crucial piece of extra track – known as the “Dalmeny chord” – to allow trains from Glasgow to call at the Gateway station will no longer be built.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/chaos-for-edinburgh-glasgow-rail-commuters-1-3137329" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/chaos-for-edinburgh-glasgow-rail-commuters-1-3137329</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119&page=2#post-62638 Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:56:11 +0000 chdot 62638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Flatwhite, CEC says -</p> <p>"<br /> CTC have made representations about maintaining the link and we will also be giving our views in support of this. My understanding is that the design is at a relatively early stage and that they would need to ensure that right's of way are maintained.</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-62361 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:09:29 +0000 cb 62361@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That south perimeter fence route sounds interesting; I didn't realise you could do that.</p> <p>Regarding other options for getting from Kirkliston/Craigie to Cammo/Maybury, there have been a couple of short discussions on the form in the past.</p> <p>This...<br /> <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=882">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=882</a><br /> ...mentions the link between Boathouse Bridge and the railway bridge at the east end of the airport. Not sure what happened to the plans for the River Almond walkway.</p> <p>This...<br /> <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3428#post-36098">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3428#post-36098</a><br /> ...mentions options for crossing the Almond at Craigie using Grotto Bridge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-62331 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:11:03 +0000 Flatwhite 62331@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I use this route and have a grumble every time I get off my bike to come down the steps after the caravan place.<br /> The resurfacing of the cycle path as you approach Newbridge seems to direct you down Lochend Road. If I was heading to Gyle or Gogarburn, there is a potential route that follows the South perimeter of the Airport, however whilst the gap between the gate and fence post is wide enough to walk through sideways, you cant get bike handlebars. This route would be interesting as it misses quite a bit of the A8 and eventually comes out at Ingleston – could this route be opened up to cyclists? Its normally only opened to allow access into the fileds for the Highland show, however its easily accessed by pedestrians - just not bikes.</p> <p> The route to Maybury/ Gyle/Gogar is still a bit iffy from Fife. The Crammond Brig zone is just not quite right and I feel quite exposed when heading to the Gyle.<br /> A few options for consideration:-</p> <p>a) Route via airport perimeter above – possible – but a bit of a detour for some</p> <p>b) The old Stirling road went through Kirkliston (prior to the 2nd runway at the airport being built) and used to link to Cammo road / Turnhouse road. The road near Carlowrie house is still there along with the bridge over the river – could this be linked up to Turnhouse / Cammo to give another route into West Edinburgh? It runs along the edge of the airport so not sure how cycle friendly they are. Is there a path at the railbridge at the River almond?</p> <p>c) A link from Craigiehall/Riverside Road across the River Almond to Cammo road would avoid the need to go along Crammon Brig.</p> <p>Bit dismayed about the Almond chord - would be pretty hacked off if this nice cycle route is lost / forgotten about. A lot nicer way to commute than going through the lights at Kirkliston </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-55863 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:36:27 +0000 Bhachgen 55863@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks again for the advice folks. As it was a bright evening I went and tried it out tonight. Newbridge end is quite easy to find once you know where it is. Coming from the west, as you come down the ramp off the bridge over the M9, you basically turn to the right, back on yourself, and the path dips under the bridge. It's pretty narrow to begin with, but soon widens. Surface is firm enough though I would imagine after rain it can probably get a bit muddy. Probably wouldn't fancy it on anything narrower that 25mm tyres except after a long dry spell.</p> <p>I followed it through Kirkliston which was far more pleasant than the road alternative at that time of the evening. There's no signage to be seen anywhere, so you have to guess which way to go at times, but it's all pretty obvious.</p> <p>As my destination was in town I dropped back onto the Kirliston-Cramond road where the path crosses it and starts heading to Dalmeny. The ramp down to the road is quite muddy and rutted, but passable. Most of the motorised traffic on that road is going the other way, so this is a pretty good way into town if you're heading for the north side, linking up with NCN1 at Cramond Brig and then into the NEPN.</p> <p>Links to the canal from the Newbridge end?<br /> 1) use the footbridge in Ratho Station, then station Road to link onto Baird Road to Ratho, where you can pick up the canal by the Bridge Inn.<br /> 2)Use the bridge over the M9 then follow the cycle path alongside the A89 westbound. Just before the big brick railway viaduct there's a wee lane (Birdsmill?) running off to the left and under the viaduct. Follow this, ignoring a left turn for Birdsmill, until you get to the Astor pub, take a left at a Give Way to go over the M8 and under a railway bridge to reach the canal.<br /> 3)As (2) but stick with the cyclepath by the A89 until you get to the right turn for Winchburgh. This jinks right over the railway line, then runs parallel to it, before turning left, back across the railway and shortly after, the canal. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54809 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:54:27 +0000 DaveC 54809@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Right folks update again. the path from the bridge next to that cottage to Kirky is fine. No puddles or debris. The ramp access is a little tricky from the road as the bridge makes the rd a dog leg and its narrow there too. But the ramp is hard under foot and not at all bogy or muddy. The path going the other way looks identical and from there to Newbridge has recently been cleared of fallen trees etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54801 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:53:02 +0000 cb 54801@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The plan is here (I had to save it first - got a network error when trying to open in the browser).</p> <p><a href="http://egip-consultation.co.uk/location/almond-chord">http://egip-consultation.co.uk/location/almond-chord</a></p> <p>As TonyJ says it's not totally clear what's planned. There's a surprising amount of road reallignment. It looks like the new Standingstone road is going to go above the railway; but is it not currecntly in a cutting? Or am I reading the plan wrongly?</p> <p>I hope the people in Craigbrae aren't good pals with the people in Craigbrae Cottages as they're going to have a long walk to go visiting. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54796 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:22:29 +0000 TonyJ 54796@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not totally sure whats planned as the map/plan doesnt go into that detail but I have left comment about it on the EGIP survey form. Not sure of the width of the cycle track in the cutting vs road + shared pavement.<br /> On a bike the road is best used coming south from Dalmeny by joining the road at the caravan place access &amp; going back onto the track once under the railway bridge (unless you *want* to carry your bike down steps etc). If walking it is possible to avoid the road altogether. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54772 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:35:43 +0000 DaveC 54772@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh no we're looking at the cycle path from Standingstane road to Kirky to avoid the road as its a bit of a rat run. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54766 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:19:08 +0000 Dave 54766@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>Worth mentioning that apparently the planned new rail lines, the Almond (or Dalmeny) Chord, will mean that Standingstane Road will be realigned onto the cycle track through the cutting under the Milton Road bridge. </em>"</p> <p>So there won't be a segregated route after all - pity.</p> <p>Still, this is Edinburgh! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54758 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:33:23 +0000 TonyJ 54758@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a "ramp" up to the track on the east side of the bridge by Carlowrie cottages &amp; on the north side of the road.<br /> Worth mentioning that apparently the planned new rail lines, the Almond (or Dalmeny) Chord, will mean that Standingstane Road will be realigned onto the cycle track through the cutting under the Milton Road bridge. Google "almond chord" for details.<br /> Tony </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54748 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:03:36 +0000 DaveC 54748@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Update:</p> <p>I rode from Kirkliston to Newbridge this morning. The path from Kirkliston to around 200m north of Newbridge is metalled, where the line crosses the Lochend Road. The rest is dirt with a few shallow puddles, which are currently iced over but which I rode through with ease.</p> <p>We're riding along the B9080 from Cramond Brig to Kirky this evening and will explore the route from the rail bridge just west of Standingstane Rd to Kirky to see if there is access up to the cycle path and what state the cycle path is in.</p> <p>Expect an update in a few days. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54744 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:00:06 +0000 HibeeBiker 54744@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The thing about cyclepaths is that everything is relative. There are some days you just don't want to be near traffic. I rode the Newbridge - Dalmeny Path yesterday to avoid the icy roads. The path has much improved over the past year. It's now smoother and better drained than, for instance, the section of the Union Canal path closest to Riccarton. Anyway my decision to ride the slightly slower cyclepath was vindicated when I heard that 2 cars had slid and crashed on the Cramond Brig - Kirkliston Road I would normally have taken. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54607 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:04:12 +0000 Bhachgen 54607@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks for all the feedback folks. Will give it a bash soon </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5119#post-54586 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:26:21 +0000 druidh 54586@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like it. I often incorporate it into a big Edinburgh Suburban loop. </p>