http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: ''second cycling culture'' en Sun, 31 May 2026 06:02:37 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=521#post-4134 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:24:18 +0000 gembo 4134@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>you have to watch these experts, they'll say anything </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=521#post-3911 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:02:04 +0000 PS 3911@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was just reading that this evening. I'm tempted to agree after my weekend in Paris. Getting the ordinary punter on a Euro-style bike will have a number of effects:<br /> a) more cyclists on the road, drivers get used to it;<br /> b) drivers are more likely to either know people who cycle or to cycle themselves, so empathise or understand how a cyclist wants motorists to behave;<br /> c) upright bikes look less "aggressive" than race bikes, so don't get drivers' backs up so much;<br /> d) upright bikes look more relaxed and maybe more vulnerable so drivers take more care;<br /> e) cycling becomes normal.</p> <p>Edinburgh certainly seems to have a lot more bikes now than it did a few years ago, but there's plenty distance to go yet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=521#post-3908 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:40:05 +0000 Kim 3908@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Edinburgh is slowly getting there :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=521#post-3907 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:20:34 +0000 chdot 3907@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting idea. </p> <p>"Sydney will never be a bicycle-friendly city until it develops a ''second cycling culture'' which encourages relaxed European-style riding without the compulsory use of helmets, experts have warned."</p> <p><a href="http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/03/sit-up-straight-sydney.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/03/sit-up-straight-sydney.html</a></p> <p>Edinburgh too? </p>