http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Land Rovers top boy racers for speed en Sun, 31 May 2026 19:29:23 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56275 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:49:23 +0000 Smudge 56275@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Splitshift, lol, I wish, a lovely wee truck, nope mine is a standard petrol from a Defender, all the fuel consumption without the power or soundtrack :-( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56268 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:31:14 +0000 Uberuce 56268@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Supporting that theory is the fact BMW drivers start with three bonus ones? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56262 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:16:56 +0000 kaputnik 56262@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I know correlation != causation, but I think this survey conclusively proves is that the more pointless letters you have in the car model, the more rubbish a driver you are? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56222 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:27:04 +0000 Nelly 56222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>These cars cant all be categorised as 'powerful' - the 320D M Sport is a bog standard 320D (popular family car) with M Sport Badges - not a more powerful engine.</p> <p>I think stats say more about the driver (and their aspiration for a 'sport' badge for example) than the car.</p> <p>Guns dont kill people, people do....etc etc </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56220 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:14:02 +0000 splitshift 56220@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>you still got it ?<br /> lol </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56216 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:39:41 +0000 crowriver 56216@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>it'll be statistically meaningless for most individual marques I'd guess?</em></p> <p>Tell that to the insurance companies! ;-)</p> <p>I suppose whether the statistics are valid or not depends upon whether they've allowed for variation. Most 'official' statistics (eg. Scottish Household Survey) supposedly build in certain assumptions about levels of accuracy/confidence. </p> <p>I assume that if confused.com want to use the data for anything other than press releases, they'll have looked at variation, accuracy, etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56215 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:01:26 +0000 Smudge 56215@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Splitshift, lol, agreed! I did know of a truck-cab 2a with a chevrolet small block engine (off road prepped) who used to enjoy startling boy racers at the traffic lights, but he was an enthusiast who cared for his vehicle and licence so the only time he could be accused of excessive speed was off road during competitions :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56214 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:58:53 +0000 Smudge 56214@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Crowriver, lol, I shouldn't try to contribute from work should I? !</p> <p>So if their figure was just over 1,000 quotes, viewed in the context of the number of vehicles on British roads, even allowing for the large overall sample size, it'll be statistically meaningless for most individual marques I'd guess? ;-) Either way t does nothing to improve safety or to criticise the attitude that the driving licence is sacred and endangering people who "slow you down" is acceptable :-/ just lets some drivers say "my vehicle is safer"... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56184 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:56:05 +0000 splitshift 56184@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>just cause it says land rover on the bonnet, doesnt make up for the words, discovery on the back ! wonder how many series 2A owners were caught, or how many flying a blue flag ??????? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56177 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:37:01 +0000 crowriver 56177@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Smudge, er...</p> <p><em>Confused.com produced the figures after assessing more than 4 million motor insurance quotes issued over the six months to last November. Only vehicles with at least 1,000 quotes were included.</em></p> <p>So the percentages are based on samples for each model of at least 1,000. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56176 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:23:44 +0000 Smudge 56176@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That'll teach me to read the headline then skim the article lol.<br /> I'm still reeling from a set of quotes that don't include "gas guzzling 4x4's".</p> <p>To be honest, it's hardly a surprise that those who buy the more powerful (over the counter, unmodified) vehicles are marginally more likely to be caight speeding. I wonder what size of sample/s resulted in those figures for individual vehicles? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56174 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:00:34 +0000 PS 56174@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hang on "boy racer" is stretching this a bit isn't it, given that the study is presumably of the whole confused client base? Lazy journos. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56173 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:59:26 +0000 crowriver 56173@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Actually the Hootsmon seem to have been somewhat selective in copying and pasting the original press release. From confused.com:</p> <p><em>Confused.com reveals the cars topping the speeding charts*<br /> - Which drivers are most likely to exceed the limit? -<br /> 26% of Land Rover Discovery HSE v6 TD owners have been caught exceeding the statutory speed limit on a public road<br /> 20% of BMW 320 D M Sport owners and 20% of Ford S-Max Titanium TDCI drivers have exceeded the statutory speed limit on a public road<br /> Ford Galaxy Zetec TDI drivers are most likely to have been caught for the use of a hand-held device while driving<br /> Drivers of the Vauxhall Astra Edition 16V Coupe are most likely to have been caught uninsured in the past<br /> Motorway speeders include Range Rover Sport and Porsche Boxster drivers</em></p> <p>Furthermore:</p> <p><em>Percentage of vehicle owners who have exceeded the statutory speed limit on a public road:<br /> Land Rover Discovery HSE V6 TD 26%<br /> Land Rover Range Rover Sport HSE TD6 20%<br /> BMW 320 DM Sport 20%<br /> Ford S-Max Titanium TDCI 20%<br /> Ford Mondeo Titanium X TDCI (140) 19%<br /> Vauxhall Insignia SRI CDTI (158) 19%<br /> Mercedes E320 Avant Garde 19%<br /> Mini Cooper TD 19%</p> <p>Percentage of drivers who’ve been caught for the use of a hand-held device while driving:<br /> Ford Galaxy Zetec TDI 1.94%<br /> BMW XS I Sport 1.77%<br /> VW Polo E (60) 1.72%<br /> Mercedes ML 270 CDI 1.63%<br /> Mercedes E320 Avant Garde CDI 1.60%<br /> BMW X5 D Sport 1.56%<br /> Land Rover Range Rover Sport 1.47%</p> <p>We also looked at the cars topping the charts for other driving offences:<br /> Car Model Worst For<br /> Audi A3 S3 FSI t Quattro Failing to comply with traffic light signals<br /> Peugeot 106 GTI Driving without due care and attention<br /> Vauxhall Astra Edition 16V Coupe Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks<br /> Citroen Saxo VTR Driving or attempting to drive with alcohol level above limit<br /> Landrover Range Rover Sport HSE TD6 Exceeding speed limit on a motorway<br /> Vauxhall Zafira Design DTI Using a vehicle with defective tyres</em></p> <p>Maybe the Hootsmon staffers drive mostly Beamers, Minis and Mercs??? Didn't want their reputations sullied eh?<br /> I think we should be told!</p> <p>Read more: <a href="http://www.confused.com/press/releases/cars-topping-the-speed-charts#ixzz1ltuebu9w" rel="nofollow">http://www.confused.com/press/releases/cars-topping-the-speed-charts#ixzz1ltuebu9w</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56172 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:57:09 +0000 PS 56172@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Min Nah, the officials love Land Rovers - there are loads of police traffic managing Landies out there. They probably just haul them over to check out what spec they've got. Then book 'em when they've got a better stereo. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56171 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:52:17 +0000 crowriver 56171@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Smudge, it does say <em>A study has revealed Land Rover drivers have the worst record for being caught</em>...</p> <p>BMW drivers are presumably better at getting away with it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56168 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:16:55 +0000 Min 56168@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think you mean "the ones most likely to be persecuted by Landrover hating officals as part of the War On The Motorist" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56167 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:04:59 +0000 Smudge 56167@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They forgot a small but important word, the ones most likely to be <em>caught</em>..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56164 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:45:47 +0000 DaveC 56164@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>These studys also point out which are the least likley cars to have an accident, thus if you're after cheep insurance and don't mind which car you drive you can shop for one. I don't recall which car was least likely in a sudy a few years ago but it was something like a VW Polo or other.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5255#post-56163 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:36:16 +0000 crowriver 56163@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>MOTORISTS’ choice of car may reveal more about their driving habits than they care to think.</p> <p>A study has revealed Land Rover drivers have the worst record for being caught exceeding the limit.</p> <p>Research by a price comparison website has found more than one in four drivers of the Land Rover Discovery HSE v6 TD have been prosecuted for speeding.</p> <p>One in five of those behind the wheel of the Range Rover Sport HSE TD6 have also fallen foul of the law.</p> <p>In addition, the study showed Range Rover Sport drivers were among those with the worst record for being caught using a phone or other hand-held device on the road.</p> <p>Ford owners were also found to be heavy on the pedal, with 20 per cent of S-Max Titanium TDCI drivers being caught speeding, and nearly as many Mondeo Titanium X TDCI drivers.</p> <p>Confused.com produced the figures after assessing more than 4 million motor insurance quotes issued over the six months to last November. Only vehicles with at least 1,000 quotes were included.</p> <p>The research also showed drivers of the Ford Galaxy Zetec TDI had the worst record for illegally using hand held devices, with one in 50 being caught.</p> <p>The Audi A3 FSI t Quattro was worst for running red lights, drivers of the Peugeot 106 GTI “hot hatch” worst for careless driving, and those driving the Citroen Saxo VTR most likely to be caught drink driving.</p> <p>Owners of the Vauxhall Zafira Design DTI were most likely to be caught with bald tyres, and those with a Vauxhall Astra Coupe caught without insurance.</em></p> <p>Phew! Dunno which I find most frightening. Continues at...</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/land_rovers_top_boy_racers_for_speed_1_2102486" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/land_rovers_top_boy_racers_for_speed_1_2102486</a> </p>