http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Taxis hit by Waverley ban over terror attack fears" en Fri, 22 May 2026 00:25:07 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301&page=2#post-96710 Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:25:24 +0000 Arellcat 96710@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>which would create panic and carnage if fired off in spaces rich with hard steel stone and concrete surfaces</em></p> <p>In a World Heritage Site? Think of the reputation to the city!</p> <p>One of the best things about Waverley is the amount of bike parking available. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301&page=2#post-96702 Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:29:29 +0000 Tulyar 96702@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A dreadful pile of hyped up stuff, but worth noting that the taxi rank at Glasgow Central is barely 12 taxis worth, and they have a holding area to feed in cabs. A dynamic road system with a rapidly turning over pool of cabs - ie no waiting stack taking up space, would be sensible, and cabs from distributed ranks around the station should aid dispersal, whilst having all vehicles that do enter the station area clearly moving through on a stop and quickly move on basis.</p> <p>However the 'ban' style of management highlights the failure to deliver an effective management regime for this issue. Responses to the Scotsman piece highlight this, much in the same way that so many other security measures are poorly delivered - good policing is invisible - not pseudo soldier police strutting about with SA weapons which would create panic and carnage if fired off in spaces rich with hard steel stone and concrete surfaces to riccochet around from. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301&page=2#post-96700 Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:41:38 +0000 chdot 96700@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/roads-shake-up-paves-way-for-fewer-taxis-in-waverley-1-2734245" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/roads-shake-up-paves-way-for-fewer-taxis-in-waverley-1-2734245</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301&page=2#post-81163 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:59:51 +0000 crowriver 81163@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also on the Beeb web site: </p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-19243891" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-19243891</a></p> <p>Once motor/disabled vehicles can only get in via secure entry system, how will bicycles get in? Have they given any thought to this I wonder or are we in for another Haymarket style 'oversight'? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-81119 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:38:01 +0000 chdot 81119@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/rail-chiefs-in-u-turn-over-waverley-taxi-ban-1-2464886" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/rail-chiefs-in-u-turn-over-waverley-taxi-ban-1-2464886</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-75712 Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:58:27 +0000 chdot 75712@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Cabbies threaten Waverley boycott over permits hike"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/edinburgh/cabbies-threaten-waverley-boycott-over-permits-hike-1-2372132" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/edinburgh/cabbies-threaten-waverley-boycott-over-permits-hike-1-2372132</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-74578 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:39:46 +0000 crowriver 74578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>FWIW I do think taxis and cars should be banned from the station to improve the overall usage and 'experience' of the station by passengers, but let's not use terrorism as an excuse. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-74577 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:37:46 +0000 crowriver 74577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As indeed does Perth station. But then, everyone knows that with the Festival, Castle, and the Parly Edinburgh's a prime terror target for.....er, well we may not know who exactly, but it's a target in the way that all those non-Festival, non-Castle, and non-Parly places aren't.</p> <p>There, now can we get on with building more retail outlets in the station with all that extra space, er, I mean improving security measures? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-74532 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:40:16 +0000 kaputnik 74532@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On a trip down ECML last week it seems both York and Darlington stations still have taxis and cars under the station roof. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-74528 Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:33:19 +0000 chdot 74528@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> THE owners of Edinburgh Waverley are considering introducing golf-style buggies to transport elderly and disabled passengers across the station if their plans to ban all cars proceed. </p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/golf-style-buggies-among-plans-for-revamped-waverley-station-1-2352977" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/golf-style-buggies-among-plans-for-revamped-waverley-station-1-2352977</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-61658 Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:23:50 +0000 Tulyar 61658@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Since the taxis are continually moving through and well clear of the ,ain circulation area the risk is very low - it would move to Waverley Bridge and Princes Street, with a ban and the other hazards on the road would increase. What would make Waverly work though is a through cab road from New Street and out onto Waverley Bridge, and no stopping traffic - just setting down/picking up and move on. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-60947 Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:02:13 +0000 chdot 60947@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Waverley ban on taxis ‘is an overreaction’</p> <p>Published on Wednesday 7 March 2012 12:07</p> <p>A PROPOSED security-inspired ban on cars and taxis at Waverley station has been described as an overreaction by the SNP’s Edinburgh Southern MSP, Jim Eadie.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/waverley-ban-on-taxis-is-an-overreaction-1-2157515" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/waverley-ban-on-taxis-is-an-overreaction-1-2157515</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57795 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:51:34 +0000 DaveC 57795@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>chdot said "What happened to the Olympics???"</p> <p>PMSL!!</p> <p>A company spokesman previously said the traffic ban had to happen before the Olympics, although that appears to no longer be the case. When asked if the reference to the Olympics was a “red herring”, Mr Poulton said: “Yes, that’s correct.” </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57793 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:33:53 +0000 chdot 57793@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Plans to ban all vehicles from Waverley Station are to be put off until Christmas."</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/waverley_s_vehicle_ban_proposals_go_off_the_rails_1_2131524" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/waverley_s_vehicle_ban_proposals_go_off_the_rails_1_2131524</a></p> <p>What happened to the Olympics??? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57738 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:07:09 +0000 kaputnik 57738@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>That article flips between using 'guidelines' and 'legislation' for the excuse</em></p> <p>Fastidious, jobsworth organisations like to try and pull this one to justify their unpopular decisions. This is guidelines, not legislation. Nobody has created a law that says you cannot have vehicle access into mainline railway stations because of the olmpics. There are however guidelines that recommends this. Guidelines should be applied on a by-risk basis. There is not a statutory obligation to comply with them.</p> <p>But at the end of the day, Network Rail own and operate the station and it's up to them who can and can not drive into it.</p> <p>Needles to say, this won't apply to their own white vans or contractors. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57718 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:23:47 +0000 chdot 57718@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"AN emergency bid is being launched at the City Chambers to halt plans to ban taxis and private cars from Waverley Station."</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/lesley_hinds_in_bid_to_halt_station_taxi_ban_1_2129463" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/lesley_hinds_in_bid_to_halt_station_taxi_ban_1_2129463</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57716 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:21:58 +0000 Darkerside 57716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That article flips between using 'guidelines' and 'legislation' for the excuse, with only Network Rail using the latter. All a bit dodgy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57713 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:14:32 +0000 Cyclingmollie 57713@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Arrelcat: <em>"Are they planning to ban all vehicles, including bicycles?"</em></p> <p>I can see that happening - it's okay to take a bike onto a train in North Berwick, it's just against the rules to get off with it at Edinburgh. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57640 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:39:51 +0000 Arellcat 57640@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"The Evening News revealed last week how the station would be closed to cars and taxis permanently by July in response to terror threats ahead of the London Olympics."</em></p> <p>Perceived, or actual, one wonders?</p> <p><em>Or complete ban on vehicles entering Waverley - that barrier wouldn't stop anything driven at it.</em></p> <p>This is a little more concerning. Are they planning to ban all vehicles, including bicycles? And motorbike parking in Waverley is currently next to nonexistent, and the rack on Waverley Bridge gets very full. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-57634 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:08:23 +0000 cb 57634@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/lesley_hinds_in_bid_to_halt_station_taxi_ban_1_2129463">http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/lesley_hinds_in_bid_to_halt_station_taxi_ban_1_2129463</a></p> <p>"AN emergency bid is being launched at the City Chambers to halt plans to ban taxis and private cars from Waverley Station. </p> <p>Labour’s transport spokeswoman on the city council Lesley Hinds lodged a motion at today’s transport committee calling for urgent talks with Network Rail to prevent the closure." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56710 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:40:39 +0000 recombodna 56710@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I wonder if the new panes of glass are shatter proof?"</p> <p>They are actually some kind of special clear plastic sheet. I spent a few months working on that roof when I was in the Height safety profession. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56703 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:56:13 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 56703@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So. We've established that taxis, cars, people, trains, glass, bricks and North Bridge should all be banned from Waverley Station.</p> <p>I've never heard of a bomber blowing up water randomly, I propose we flood the station with water. May I also propose that 'Waverley' is a rubbish name, and the more apt North Loch be used? Actually, that's a bit wordy, how about Norloch? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56690 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:06:33 +0000 DaveC 56690@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wonder if the new panes of glass are shatter proof? Perhaps someone should ask... I can imagine their faces dropping right at the end of the re glacing... Oh no we've installed the wrong sort of glass £££££££££ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56688 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:04:19 +0000 cb 56688@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"They could put a bomb on a train... "</p> <p>Then if we divert all trains around the south sub that will keep the station safe.</p> <p>I was in the main Waverley concourse, years ago, when someone lobbed a brick off North Bridge. Much raining down of shattered glass.</p> <p>So also need to ban bricks and glass. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56686 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:50:37 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 56686@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They could put a bomb on a train... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56685 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:40:51 +0000 Min 56685@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They could drop the bomb from North Bridge. We should ban North bridge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56684 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:36:50 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 56684@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What about suicide bombers with bombs strapped to their person?!?! Surely we should be banning <em>people</em> from the station?!?!? Will nobody think of the children! etc etc etc </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56683 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:34:53 +0000 chdot 56683@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Another small victory for terrorism."</p> <p>Quite</p> <p>London bombing - people with rucksacks</p> <p>Glasgow Airport attempt - large car. </p> <p>Presume rucksacks won't be routinely searched???</p> <p>Or complete ban on vehicles entering Waverley - that barrier wouldn't stop anything driven at it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56682 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:26:26 +0000 cb 56682@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Another small victory for terrorism. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5301#post-56679 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:18:00 +0000 kaputnik 56679@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Preston?</p> <p>I think the taxis are safer and less of a nuisance inside the station than they are lurking on Waverley bridge or Market Street, mixing it up with the tour buses and airlink bus. </p>