http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: It's all uphill (temproary new route) en Sat, 27 Jun 2026 23:42:35 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57524 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:50:09 +0000 amir 57524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Roba italiana è buona ...</p> <p>しかし、日本のものはさらに良いです。</p> <p>(google translate can take the blame for this!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57519 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:22:55 +0000 kaputnik 57519@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That'll learn you to use fancy-pants Campag </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57517 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:09:40 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 57517@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like your thinking Mr wingpig! Rear wheel sadly, so would have to count on coggle compatibility. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57516 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:08:17 +0000 wingpig 57516@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Which wheel? Could you not find something which looks like it's been parked for a while (possibly a C2W Boardman) and borrow the wheel from it overnight? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57505 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:39:14 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 57505@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Which I'd thoroughly enjoy, but a previous engagement at lunchtime means I'll be doing the fill-the-tyre-a-bit-and-keep-an-eye-on-it thang all the way down.</p> <p>Would sort it before leaving, but got to get to Mel's work, get her home, grab something to eat, and be out the door again by 6.30 at the absolute latest to drive through to South Lanarkshire (for the end of my latest Taiko class). Rushed ain't the word. Still, some late night fettling whne I get back will be in order. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57503 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:35:44 +0000 kaputnik 57503@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Anth come 5 O' Clock it's "all down hill" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57479 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:41:28 +0000 PS 57479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The car park under a town centre square seems to be the default parking option in French towns - I've seen/been in them in Toulouse, Dijon, Albi, Tours, Bordeaux...</p> <p>They work well and tend to be positioned at squares with access to the almost invariably pedestrianised main shopping streets.</p> <p>They are certainly nicer than the traditional British default of crappy concrete and stale piss... As Anth says, tannoys playing soothing sounds (bird noise in Dijon), well maintained. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57474 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:22:29 +0000 cb 57474@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I know the ideal situation would be for people to leave their cars at home, but I think I have come around the way of thinking that I would prefer more off street car parks* and empty streets to go with them.</p> <p>*Underground, hidden in a building, shielded by trees. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57473 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:20:53 +0000 kaputnik 57473@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's a large multistorey on Castle Street. There's another in St. James' Centre. There's a third under Omni Centre. There's one under Scottish Windows. Clearly it's too far for some people to walk from any of these places to the range of washing machine vending emporia on George Street. (Hint, there are none) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57463 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:00:06 +0000 wingpig 57463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Most buildings in the modern grid bit of Barcelona seemed to have underground car-parking, presumably included when they were built rather than retro-fitted. Didn't notice it so much in Madrid, presumably as it's built on more substantial rock-matter. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57461 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:47:59 +0000 chdot 57461@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Never been in a French underground car park, might not be hard to be 'nicer' than UK - but nice??</p> <p>Certainly would be good if more cars were taken away from streets - but it's usually about <em>more</em> parking. </p> <p>There's an unused multi-storey next to the EICC... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57460 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:36:14 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 57460@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Although it has to be said that many many French cities have underground car parks. Not only were their car parks nicer, cleaner and easier to find your way in (and they played opera over tannoys...) but it removed a certain amount of vehicular clutter from the streets. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57459 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:30:28 +0000 chdot 57459@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I seem to remember crazy plans a few years back to build similar car parks under Chambers and/or George Street."</p> <p>Such things never go away. </p> <p>George Street remains unlikely due to the solid rock. </p> <p>We are still some way from overcoming the 'I need my car to buy a washing machine' and 'how will people (with money) get to the city centre to shop without parking' attitudes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57454 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:24:11 +0000 kaputnik 57454@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot some sort of level crossing required. Or dig a shaft up to Princes Street level and build a spiral ramp up to the surface.</p> <p>I seem to remember crazy plans a few years back to build similar car parks under Chambers and/or George Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57445 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:02:28 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 57445@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Could get one of those 'bike lift' things in that they have in Scandinavia. One foot in and away you go. Charge 20p for its use. Ah. Model cycling city and all that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57444 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:02:27 +0000 chdot 57444@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Main problem with tunnel is that it ends at track level at Waverley. </p> <p>A "bike lift" for Dublin Street has been seriously considered. </p> <p><a href="http://cyclingedinburgh.info/2007/04/02/should-edinburgh-rethink" rel="nofollow">http://cyclingedinburgh.info/2007/04/02/should-edinburgh-rethink</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57441 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:00:48 +0000 kaputnik 57441@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Scotland Street tunnel has a gradient of 1 in 27, so is fairly steep. Back in yore there was a stationary engine to help haul trains up the slope. Perhaps that would need re-instatement too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57440 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:52:57 +0000 wingpig 57440@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Clammy. Even better if it was extended southwards to pop out on the Cowgate.<br /> Once you get your CX tyres back on you can look at interesting routes involving Dean Park Crescent. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57439 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:52:44 +0000 cb 57439@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"How good (long, slow) would that be???"</p> <p>That would be good. Obviously it would be a major terrorist threat so it will never happen.</p> <p>Your "back home" commute must be good though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57436 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:49:03 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 57436@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I still think they should reinstate the big tunnel from Scotland Street to Waverley as a major commuter link. How good (long, slow) would that be??? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57435 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:47:17 +0000 wingpig 57435@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As some sort of slope-climbing is unavoidable it leaves you free to choose a route based on road surface and fellow-road-user-idiocy-opportunity. From there there's also the dilemma of choosing whether to skirt the city centre tramworks round their east or west extremities. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57431 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:33:32 +0000 Min 57431@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And <em>you</em> will be in three weeks time. ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57429 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:30:27 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 57429@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes but <em>you</em> are fit!</p> <p>I zig-zagged it. I ain't that daft. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57426 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:26:45 +0000 Min 57426@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Welcome to my world.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5362#post-57423 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:21:38 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 57423@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today brings just short of three weeks of driving Mel to work, leaving the car at her place, and riding to/from there.</p> <p>She's a couple of hundred yards off Gt Junction Street - it really is just all uphill from there to the top of Morrison Street isn't it?</p> <p>Noticeably cloggier roads as well, though maybe the rain and headwind made the route seem worse. Still, change is good... </p>