http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: The rebound effect en Sun, 31 May 2026 19:30:13 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58218 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:51:03 +0000 LaidBack 58218@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><strong>Instography</strong> <em>What are people supposed to do with the money they've saved apart from buy other stuff?</em> </p> <p>That's so true... I'm guilty of tempting some.</p> <p><em>As an aside...<br /> </em><br /> Last Sunday I went out on a CTC ride led by Liz on this forum.</p> <p>Best bit was when someone walking a dog called us 'typical cyclists'.</p> <p>We were guilty of: </p> <p>• Taking up whole path (was huge broad bit at Musselburgh Harbour)<br /> • Answering her back<br /> • Being selfish<br /> • Outnumbering her</p> <p>I was quite chuffed as being on an 'un-typical' bike I never think I'm typical!</p> <p>If we had been out running she would have kept quiet. She obviously knew we were no threat. Wonder how she drives? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58216 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:42:14 +0000 Darkerside 58216@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cyclist "But you'll be able to eat considerably more cake without any noticeable gain in padding"</p> <p>I feel the cake angle really is underutilised in pro-cycling campaigns. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58206 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:07:42 +0000 crowriver 58206@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cyclist: "Hey, you should really ride a bike instead of driving that gas guzzler".<br /> Driver: "Oh really? Why? Is that what everyone else is doing?"<br /> Cyclist: Er, no.<br /> Driver: "Will it improve my image?"<br /> Cyclist: Er, well your body might improve, but as for the clothes....maybe other cyclists will like them.<br /> Driver: "Will it make me more popular?"<br /> Cyclist: Er, not really. Maybe with other cyclists.<br /> Driver: "Will I be wealthier?"<br /> Cyclist: Possibly.<br /> Driver: "Hmm. I'll think about it." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58202 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:01:06 +0000 crowriver 58202@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>If we are to counter-act the rebound effect, energy saving messaging needs to convey not extrinsic values but a sense of our moral duty to help meet the climate change challenge and make sure we all have a stable, sustainable future.</em></p> <p>Oh dear. Is that the only answer? Trying to challenge the dominant values in society (that are constantly reinforced by media and advertising) is extremely difficult and almost certainly doomed to fail.</p> <p>Just ask cyclists! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58141 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:25:19 +0000 Instography 58141@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What are people supposed to do with the money they've saved apart from buy other stuff? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58134 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:05:57 +0000 cb 58134@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I did once hear a woman on the the radio justify her use of a Humvee on the basis that she 'recycled' and had 'turned her thermostat down'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58100 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:56:43 +0000 wingpig 58100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I use roads safely and courteously, therefore it's OK for me to scowl at people who don't?</p> <p>I've seen people thinking that just because they have energy-efficient light-bulbs they're allowed to leave all their lights burning all the time. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58098 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:51:39 +0000 Darkerside 58098@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>She lost me at the beginning, when suggesting that exercising in order to come home and eat cake was in some way wrong.</p> <p>Interesting article though, especially the later bit about 'moral self-licensing'. I buy organic food, therefore I'm a good person, therefore it's ok for me to offset this goodness by travelling at 35 in a 30 (my loose interpretation). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5443#post-58095 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:48:15 +0000 chdot 58095@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> the intended carbon savings from energy efficiency measures are often not realised in practice, because people spend the money they save on other goods or services that require an energy input. This is the so-called ‘rebound effect.’ </p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://energysavingtrust.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/reduce-rebound-reoffend" rel="nofollow">http://energysavingtrust.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/reduce-rebound-reoffend</a></p> <p>Presume this has some relevance to cycling/driving. </p> <p>Though obviously there are more good reasons for cycling (especially in urban areas) than energy/carbon. </p>