http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: #pop28 marshals en Wed, 15 Apr 2026 07:30:16 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65678 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:35:59 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 65678@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yep, works for me too, even though I'm as flexible as a Hollywood A-lister's botoxed forehead having been dipped in liquid nitrogen to the tune of 'We Shall Not Be Moved'... Or something. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65672 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:12:34 +0000 Uberuce 65672@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I am 50% gentlemen of leisure this week and next, so I'm flexible like a python's jaw to the tune of popping goat ribs. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65671 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:55:54 +0000 DaveC 65671@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sorry chaps and chapesses (sp?) but I'll be busy marchalling my two young reprobates, or I'd be there with you. Tell you what I'll have a wee dram on Weds evening and 'Be With You In Spirit'... did you see what I did there? :D </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65668 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:52:06 +0000 SRD 65668@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>works for me. 7.30 on the 25th? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65667 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:48:18 +0000 Uberuce 65667@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Diggers suits dandy, yarp. I'll arbitarily say Wednesday? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65614 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:01:25 +0000 SRD 65614@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>that's great. we may have to have a special HP marshals meeting sometime next week - Diggers? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65598 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:42:48 +0000 Uberuce 65598@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bum, I forgot to tell SRD and Anth I'm volunteering for this and am a first aider. Am and am, SRD'n'Anth. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-65594 Mon, 16 Apr 2012 18:10:30 +0000 sallyhinch 65594@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>OK, have added a page to the site <a href="http://pedalonparliament.org/ride-marshals/">here</a> with a few more details </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64824 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:59:28 +0000 sallyhinch 64824@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@morningsider - yes please re drafting cards / dry run - I think you have our email addresses? </p> <p>You're probably right re bike fettling. A complication too far and we're up to our eyes as it is. Simplify! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64794 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:42:50 +0000 Morningsider 64794@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sally - I have some very limited experience of this kind of thing. I'm happy to help in any way I can - I could draft sample fact cards for marshalls, help with any dry run (I cycle part of this route in my daily commute).</p> <p>I was thinking about the suggestions for repairs/fettling. I think organisers should be clear that responsibility for participants safety and the road worthiness of their bikes are their own responsibility. Perhaps worth suggesting on the website that people concerned about the state of their bike visit a friendly local bike shop prior to the ride for bike repairs/service.</p> <p>Not to say that marshals/organisers cannot offer friendly advice or assistance - but I don't think this could be on any formal basis, as it could open up liability issues. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64769 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:41:41 +0000 sallyhinch 64769@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>oh and ahem ... did you say you had *experience* of this, @morningsider? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64766 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:27:07 +0000 sallyhinch 64766@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@morningsider - thanks for that, all extremely helpful and noted!</p> <p>We could try and push the police for a decision earlier but I suspect they're going to base that on how many turn up. At the moment we've got no idea except for those saying they'll come on the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/events/337187866331566/">facebook event</a> - which seems on the low side. </p> <p>Briefing cards etc. an extremely good idea, we'll have to try and get those prepared.</p> <p>It might be a good idea to do a dry run a week beforehand to ride the route &amp; also so marshals know who each other are by sight, if they don't already! All in @SRD's hands though ... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64763 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:02:05 +0000 SRD 64763@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Zenfrost, not a bad idea, but would expect parents who know their kid's an escape artist to bring them pre-labelled. The wee ones should mostly be contained in bike seats anyway!</p> <p>we are arranging loudhailers though for exactly such contingencies </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64759 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:47:11 +0000 Zenfrozt 64759@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Random suggestion regarding lost children - would tyvek wristbands that mum/dad/primary carer could write contact details on be sensible? Don't think they're that expensive. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64753 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:15:56 +0000 Morningsider 64753@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sally, from my experience the following could be useful:</p> <p>There needs to be a clear route plan and contingencies if this changes on the day or during the event.</p> <p>It is advisable to nominate someone to be in overall "command" on the day - i.e. someone who can take decisions on the spot and who the authorities can contact in the first instance. In my experience committees are not best placed to take decisions in these situations. This person needs a deputy, who can take over if the designated person leaves or cannot be contacted. The authorities should be advised that these people are the first point of contact on the day.</p> <p>The designated "commanders" and other organisers must know who the police/council top brass are on the ground during the demo and how to contact them.</p> <p>Marshals need to be well briefed on the day. Some kind of quick reference fact card can also be useful to ensure everyone knows what action to take in circumstances you can reasonably expect to happen (mechanical breakdown, lost children etc.)</p> <p>Clear channels of communication between organisers/marshals are essential on the day. </p> <p>It is vital to find out ASAP whether the demo will require to adhere to normal rules at junctions etc. It could be chaos on the day if people aren't advised of this in advance. If the decision is made on the day then every possible form of communication should be used to advise people of how to behave on the road - otherwise marshals could find themselves dealing with a number of irate cyclists/motorists/others. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64740 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:59:01 +0000 BikeFan 64740@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Track pump with schraeder and presta valve fittings available for Harrison Park if I can pop it in a trailer for the journey. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64739 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:54:06 +0000 sallyhinch 64739@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>OK, there'll be a police briefing on the day and they'll decide then (I think) if they'll let us 'bottle' junctions, i.e. not let any cars through, or if we have to go with the flow of the traffic.</p> <p>We'll also have special POP blue hi vis vests for the marshals (no point making them yellow!) but maybe green crosses for first aiders would be a good point. Would it be possible to be both a first aider and a marshal, or should those be different jobs?</p> <p>If folks (not just marshals) could bring pumps with a variety of valve fittings that would be good so any flats can be temporarily dealt with quickly. Also maybe we should have a bit of a 'bike fettling' spot before the ride so if bikes have been dragged out of sheds / bought from Asda they can be put in vaguely running order before the off... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64737 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:43:48 +0000 Uberuce 64737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>First aider here too, although minus a kit, I think. Should really own one, so I'll remedy that in due course. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64734 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:34:30 +0000 BikeFan 64734@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>because we're making it up as we go along here... </em><br /> I think you and Kim seem to have it fairly well sussed out.<br /> Would the folk who've previously been in contact with LBP about organising the day been given police guidelines for such an occasion? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64733 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:33:36 +0000 DaveC 64733@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm a first aider and will bring my first aid kit. (excited now I have an excuse to buy lots of new stuff for my first aid box). I'll try to get some green crosses on my high vis cycle vest. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64729 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:57:50 +0000 sallyhinch 64729@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>PS if anyone has had experience of doing this before that would be great because we're making it up as we go along here... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64728 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:56:36 +0000 sallyhinch 64728@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kim's got it about right. I'd add:</p> <p><ul>* turn up a bit early to be briefed / attend recce ride if at all possible<br /> * follow the police's instructions on the day and ensure others do the same<br /> * lead and tail the group, and lead and tail subgroups if the ride gets split up at junctions<br /> * explain to motorists &amp; others what's going on and why they're being delayed if necessary (maybe with flyers)<br /> * offer help to anyone who's injured / has mechanical problems, or find someone who can (btw do we need first aiders / bike first aiders?)<br /> * be smiley and friendly and non-confrontational to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike and encourage others to do the same<br /> </ul> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64723 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:06:37 +0000 Kim 64723@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Being a marshal is really just about pointing people in the right direction, the marshal would "supervise" at junctions, keep in contact with each other to make sure that ride didn't get too fragmented and be a contact point in case of need. Much swapping of mobile numbers in advance. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64717 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:31:14 +0000 Roibeard 64717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Having never been a marshal, could you elaborate a bit on what would be entailed (being there early)? A bit of a person spec (skills, experience, aptitude) would be good too...</p> <p>Robert the ignorant </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6064#post-64710 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 16:57:14 +0000 SRD 64710@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you think you'll be able to help out on the day as a marshal, for a feeder ride and/or the main ride, can you please let us know by emailing hello {at} pedalonparliament.org changing the {at} to the usual @</p> <p>Thanks! </p>