http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Controversial bus pram ban reaches end of line" en Thu, 21 May 2026 18:21:34 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65129 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:36:21 +0000 wingpig 65129@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Our current buggy was specifically picked so that it could be folded one-handed whilst holding the child in the other arm, in case of the need to collapse it to embark or remain on a public omnibus. Me being able to walk normally with it without repeatedly accidentally kneeing the occupant or activating the brake was a secondary consideration. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65073 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:47:57 +0000 Morningsider 65073@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm with SRD, occasionally passed junior to a likely looking passenger while folding - an LB driver once even got out the cab and helped me! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65071 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:44:56 +0000 Min 65071@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose it is not "pretending it isn't their" per se but just a busfull of blank faces which amounts to the same thing. Wish I had the guts to grab the buggy myself on those occasions, that would soon bring the owner to the fore... :-P</p> <p>I can of course understand why no-one would want to be turned off a bus or even have the hassle of folding a buggy whilst wrangling a child but wheelchair users should have priority and that is that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65070 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:43:34 +0000 steveo 65070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Unless you have a young child who requires a trip to town or hospital which means taking the bus. </em></p> <p>If one knows one won't get on the bus without folding the buggy one is prepared for that, if one might get away with it and is then denied this is where conflict arises. When the rules are clear and relatively uniformly applied conflict is reduced and every one is happy. </p> <p>My mum never drove and used to get around with two young children with relatively little bother, long before low floored buses. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65068 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:41:41 +0000 SRD 65068@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Have got to say, we always loved taking the bus when our kids were wee. used pram for first few months, then mainly maclarens, which are much easier. never had a problem with either, or with drivers, or with other users. </p> <p>Daughter who used bus exclusively until around 16 months when we got bikes, loved going on the bus. always smiles and chats with other passengers. always felt sorry for kids in cars with no one to play peekaboo (etc) with. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65066 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:41:16 +0000 custard 65066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I would like to support this but I am afraid to say I have never seen a buggy user fold their buggy or get off to make way for a wheelchair user. They either refuse point blank or just pretend the baby isn't theirs. </em></p> <p>not the experience I have?<br /> seen many folks fold buggies down for wheelchairs or parents with younger/sleeping kids </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65064 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:38:50 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 65064@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>... or just pretend the baby isn't theirs</em>"</p> <p>Seriously?!?!? People are plain weird.</p> <p>Have to say, what's the point in buying a folding buggy if you're not going to fold it? As SRD says, there will usually be plenty people willing to hold the kid while you do so - certainly not everyone, and I wouldn't advocate handing said child over to the hairy man in the front seat mumbling about donkeys in sunglasses who smells slightly of wee, but just find the nearest granny. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65062 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:37:07 +0000 Instography 65062@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, when we lived in Edinburgh we tried once taking newborn Ewan, pram and associated luggage onto a bus. We did as we were supposed to - folded the buggy etc. Never again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65061 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:36:41 +0000 chdot 65061@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I always just gave child to random passengers to hold"</p> <p>Can tell ure not from roun' 'ere... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65058 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:33:54 +0000 DaveC 65058@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Steveo said "<em>If none of the drivers let on unfolded buggies it wouldn't be problem.</em></p> <p>Unless you have a young child who requires a trip to town or hospital which means taking the bus. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65057 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:33:20 +0000 SRD 65057@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I always just gave child to random passengers to hold while I folded. never found it a problem! if anything, they usually seemed to enjoy it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65054 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:28:44 +0000 steveo 65054@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The problem was their clear policy was ignored by some drivers. If none of the drivers let on unfolded buggies it wouldn't be problem </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65053 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:26:34 +0000 Stepdoh 65053@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ahm Furrit. It's was real limiting factor for parents and at least in our household led to fairly unnecessary car use. </p> <p>Min, I think the problem was that the option was just to get off, and the levels of variation in application of the rules was the problem. I've known several people who got the bus up to town, only to be refused the return journey.</p> <p>A clear policy, with a clear transfer system is better for all concerned. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65052 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:26:15 +0000 steveo 65052@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm with Min on this, I've seen one person fold their buggy but it was with a lot of huffing and puffing and took so long it seemed they were deliberately being obtuse.</p> <p>I generally avoid the bus with the coxwain purely because he won't walk yet and folding the buggy whilst holding him is too much hassle. If i'm in a hurry I take the car/bike other wise I walk. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65050 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:15:50 +0000 Min 65050@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I would like to support this but I am afraid to say I have never seen a buggy user fold their buggy or get off to make way for a wheelchair user. They either refuse point blank or just pretend the baby isn't theirs. The juxtaposition has not happened very often but a 100% record is still too high IMO and if non-foldable prams are allowed on the problem can surely only get worse? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6088#post-65046 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:51:00 +0000 chdot 65046@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>More buses with more room. </p> <p>Don't suppose it will make any difference to non-bagged bikes. </p> <p><a href="http://m.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/controversial-bus-pram-ban-reaches-end-of-line-1-2230566" rel="nofollow">http://m.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/controversial-bus-pram-ban-reaches-end-of-line-1-2230566</a> </p>