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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike</title>
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;[]i... wondering if I am a boy or a girl because I have short hair and girls have long hair... [/i]&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;BURN THE WITCH!!!!!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;;)
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<title>fimm on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Nice one, good luck Min (I think the Hadrian's Wall run is the same day as the WHW, otherwise Mr fimm was interested too).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(I have neices and their stuff is more pink than a pink thing. Sigh. They also went through a phase of wondering if I am a boy or a girl because I have short hair and girls have long hair...)
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<title>amir on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Carlisle to Gateshead via Hadrian's Wall.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wow - that's positively heroic.
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Of course pink used to be, years and years back, the colour that boys were dressed in. no idea why if shifted, but there you go.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As SRD says, it's not so much the colour itself, but the associations. Funnily enough, I have a few pink shirts, and have a few people I know whose immediate response is that they're a bit 'gay'*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*which brings in another ridiculous concept of 'gay' as a term of abuse.
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<title>Min on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;*anyone else suffer stereotype rage when they see the &#34;boys&#34; and &#34;girls&#34; toy aisles in shops? &#38;gt;:-&#38;lt;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yes.
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<title>SRD on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;smudge - there's a great campaign on this &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.pinkstinks.co.uk/&#34;&#62;'pink stinks'&#60;/a&#62;. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Pinkstinks is a campaign that targets the products, media and marketing that prescribe heavily stereotyped and limiting roles to young girls.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Of course, I do think we have to be reasonable. My girl quite likes wearing pink, but she also loved her bob the builder scooter etc. Its not the colour that is bad. It's the associations and the marketing and the stereotypes that are offensive.
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<title>Min on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Carlisle to Gateshead via Hadrian's Wall. The West Highland Way one is a possibility for next year if I decide to keep it up. :-)
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<title>fimm on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What are you doing, Min? (Mr fimm is running the West Highland Way race in June, so I've become interested in ultramarathons...)
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<title>Smudge on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Kaputnik, &#34;Perhaps I'm a future Olympic champion?&#34; if there was the slightest suspicion it might work the peleton would be a sea of Barbie pink* and bar end tassels!! :-D&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*anyone else suffer stereotype rage when they see the &#34;boys&#34; and &#34;girls&#34; toy aisles in shops? &#38;gt;:-&#38;lt;
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<title>cb on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;And...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/lady-s-day-as-portuguese-runner-seals-historic-win-in-capital-race-1-2236446&#34;&#62;Woman, yes WOMAN, wins Edinburgh Half Marathon&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Smudge on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Smudge</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Well, it's difficult in heels. &#34;&#60;br /&#62;
But not impossible.. (damhikijkok!)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Agree with all above, lazy sexist non-story. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I hardly think he's about to be upset about his mum telling people when he himself mentions it in his own autobiography! I rather think that's the journalists own prejudices showing there, from what I remember of that part of his book Mr Hoy was (rightly) mainly just enjoying having a bike :-)
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<title>Kirst on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That's a brilliant news page Min. Chocolate rage, murderous swans...
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<title>steveo on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Apparently 800m was considered too much.&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Its a bit much for me! Can't comment on any one else though...
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<title>RJ on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#38;lt;quote = Mrs Hoy&#38;gt; “His first ever bike was a girl’s bike, handed over by a neighbour. I don’t think he realised it was a girl’s bike at the time. &#60;strong&#62;He managed to break that very quickly&#60;/strong&#62;, which perhaps meant he’d like a new one.” &#38;lt;/quote&#38;gt;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;... or that &#34;girls'&#34; frames are less strong (which is why the women in my life choose to ride &#34;men's&#34; diamond frames).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But yes, agree with you all (though pass on running in heels due to lack of direct experience) - what a rubbish piece of sub-editing from the Evilling News.
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<title>Min on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Found the article on the BBC. Apparently 800m was considered too much.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17632029&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17632029&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Min on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Min</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I believe women could not run more than a mile and a half then. Too weak you see.*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Kirst has hit the nail on the head here.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*I'll be running 70 in June. Wish me luck..
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<title>Kirst on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Kirst</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Well, it's difficult in heels.
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;well said kirst, despite much progress*, its shameful that these default positions still exist.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*40 years ago, women couldn't run the boston marathan!
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<title>Kirst on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Kirst</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That's because male and masculine are portrayed as the default and as superior. Female and feminine are portrayed as the inferior variant. It's ok for girls to have &#34;boys' things&#34; because they are to be aspired to, but it's shameful for a boy to have or want &#34;girl's things&#34; because they are lesser.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'll be a post-feminist in the post-patriarchy, me.
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<title>kaputnik on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;My first bike was a &#34;girl's&#34; bike, as in it was my sister's old one. Cute we metalic orange thing with chunky white tyres.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps I'm a future Olympic champion?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Don't think a &#34;Pendelton's first bike was a boy's bike&#34; article would have been deemed worthy of print.
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<title>Wilmington&#039;s Cow on "Hoy&#039;s first bike was a girl&#039;s bike"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;em&#62;Misogyny is so engrained into our patriarchal culture&#60;/em&#62;&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I agree with Reg!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Seriously, it's odd isn't it? Whatever you ride indeed. But for a headline &#34;Hoy's mum emotional at son winning gold medals&#34; was always going to be trumped by Hoy clearly being all girly on a bike he had when he was a nipper.
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;God, this pisses me off. There's nothing shameful about having a girl's bike because there's nothing shameful about being a girl. Misogyny is so engrained into our patriarchal culture.
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;whatever you ride&#34;
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/chris-hoy-s-mum-says-his-first-bike-was-a-girl-s-1-2238253&#34;&#62;Newsworthy?&#60;/a&#62;
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