http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Harrison Park improvement en Tue, 21 May 2013 07:19:35 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-101465 Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:45:03 +0000 chdot 101465@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Better late than never!"</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=746&amp;page=112&amp;replies=3331#post-101464" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=746&amp;page=112&amp;replies=3331#post-101464</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-68249 Tue, 01 May 2012 18:53:54 +0000 Greenroofer 68249@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suspect (without any evidence whatsoever) that the pink aggregate will get better as it ages. Presumably at the start the pink pebbles have a certain amount of tar on them: as this wears off they will get pinker...</p> <p>We'll have to see. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-68189 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:53:09 +0000 Claggy Cog 68189@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6950022142/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6950022142/in/photostream/</a></p> <p>I think the pink aggregate works rather well. The problem with a lot of the cycle lanes is when the red stuff starts crumbling and being washed away it all becomes rather lumpy and makes for an uncomfortable ride. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-68177 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:24:08 +0000 chdot 68177@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Sara Dorman ‏ @SRDEdinburgh </p> <p>@southwest_team Easy peasey -- Dropped kerb where footpath meets Harrison Rd to ease access for buggies, bikes, wheelchairs etc</p> <p>South West Team‏ @southwest_team</p> <p>@srdedinburgh update: this will be added to our list of proposed dropped kerbs &amp; will be done over the next few months. ^G<br /> 1:11 PM - 1 May 12</p> <p>"</p> <p>Better late than never!</p> <p>"<br /> Sara Dorman @SRDEdinburgh</p> <p>@southwest_team Woo-hoo! All 100+ cyclists who went 'bump' on their way to @POPScotland on Saturday will be thrilled! Many thanks :)</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-66799 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:14:39 +0000 chdot 66799@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>South West Team (@southwest_team)</p> <p>4/24/12 8:05 AM</p> <p>If you're in Harrison Park today say "hi" to our Wardens who will be there all day today and Thursday: <a href="http://ow.ly/arTjm" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/arTjm</a> #edinclean<br /> " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-66737 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:13:33 +0000 chdot 66737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>South West Team (@southwest_team)</p> <p>4/23/12 6:25 PM</p> <p>Tomorrow is the start of our dog fouling initiative in Harrison Park. Wardens will be there 7am to 10pm: ow.ly/arTes #edinclean</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-66679 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:15:44 +0000 lionfish 66679@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I visited the boat/barge last week and filled in the form. The main point I thought of was the blocked access by parked cars. The consultation was suppose to be for Harrison Park East, but I mainly use HP West, I guess it's the same people. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178&page=2#post-66549 Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:46:59 +0000 SRD 66549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I presume you've sent a link of this to the cycling officer chap? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66457 Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:56:03 +0000 chdot 66457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Serious missed opportunity here -</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/7098780703/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7098780703_8a89493ed2.jpg"></a></p> <p>Very recent pavement repair.</p> <p>A dropped kerb c/should have been created.</p> <p>It had been on another part of CEC's 'coming soon' list for a while.</p> <p>It's not just about joined-up-thinking, more about thinking.</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/6952721176/"><img src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5461/6952721176_15117eff1d.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/7098787679/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7080/7098787679_53a27a2e0a.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/7098787679/">Turn left for Sustrans route - no dropped kerb</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66342 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:54:59 +0000 spytfyre 66342@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo - indeed - much better than another skatepark in town eh? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66224 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:58:49 +0000 gembo 66224@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>there used to be a bike racing circuit in Harrison Park so it is nice to see it as an option </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66131 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:15:39 +0000 spytfyre 66131@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>oooh now we're talking </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66105 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:29:33 +0000 SRD 66105@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>spytfyre - i'll email you the form. it mentions bbqs and picnic tables! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66100 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:13:03 +0000 spytfyre 66100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>hmmm - might try to make it to the barge on Sunday but I rather think the drop kerb and the double yellow parkers blocking access rather covers the improvements I could think of<br /> Mirrors under the bridges to see oncoming ped/cycles is genius too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66074 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:02:48 +0000 fimm 66074@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD, thank you very much. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66066 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:34:42 +0000 SRD 66066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>yes. ON topic. it's the harrison park east consultation exercise. there's a one page form, where they want you to list your prefs for what to have in park (includes bike racing circuit!). if you go along on Sunday, they'll give you a hard copy. or email <a href="mailto:pat@re-union.org.uk">pat@re-union.org.uk</a> and ask for a copy </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66062 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:19:42 +0000 fimm 66062@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>i've got an electronic copy of the feedback form. if anyone wants one, pm me your address<br /> </em></p> <p>Are we back on topic with Harrison Park here? Feedback form for what, exactly? (Could well be interested.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66059 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:15:42 +0000 SRD 66059@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>i've got an electronic copy of the feedback form. if anyone wants one, pm me your address </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66047 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:28:11 +0000 DaveC 66047@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I bought new spd's from Rose cycles last week which came with cleet style pedal adapters on so clips one side and flat the other. these black adapters also have yellow reflectors on. I'll see if I can find a link. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66045 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:27:12 +0000 chdot 66045@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are currently two active discussions - Harrison Park and Leamington Bridge that have both 'drifted' to more general discussions about usage, sharing (pedestrians, dogs, prams) and rules - dismount, 6mph etc.</p> <p>New thread -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6195" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6195</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66042 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:13:53 +0000 Dave 66042@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm. I suppose I could buy flat pedals and change them over whenever I think I might end up using a stretch of canal (just the one bike, you see).</p> <p>It's amazing how quiet the canal is really if you're using it outside of rush hour - I would typically pass the rowing squad then maybe half a dozen people all the way to Ratho. Great stuff.</p> <p>The bridges are dodgy though, I always worried someone would come flying round them and end up in the canal. In practice, self preservation seemed to make everyone pretty darn sensible there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66041 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:02:46 +0000 fimm 66041@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Any bike that I might ride along the canal path, I ride with flat pedals and non-cycling-specific shoes. If I want to ride my road bike, I ride on the roads. (I rarely cycle on the canal path because I am a speed merchant at heart and the canal path is a place to cycle slowly and with respect for the other users of the path. IMHO of course.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66040 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:54:06 +0000 Dave 66040@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh, and I don't bother to dismount on the aquaduct unless there's someone coming the other way. </p> <p>Sure, you might *prefer* to dismount, that's true anywhere, but I never understand why people think it's better to have slippery plasticy shoes/cleats on the ground instead of a bunch of super grippy rubber. </p> <p>You should have seen 50 audax riders trying to walk off the ferry last Easter because riding is "too dangerous" - a few just about went in the sea! :P </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66039 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:51:10 +0000 Dave 66039@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"it is alarming for walkers who invariably have to step off the path to avoid collision"</em></p> <p>Although my experience of riding on the canal is admittedly limited (I only took it up for a while last summer for PBP training, based on chat from this forum):</p> <p>When I transit between Canonmills and Ocean Terminal on the paths (WoL or Roseburn), which I do twice daily, if people move aside for me I ride past, but if they don't, I don't smash into them before collapsing in a bloody heap, and would be even less likely to if the result included fishing around in the canal for my bike.</p> <p>At the end of the day each user of any transport mechanism impinges on all the others. When running I hate to be held up by sluggards, and on foot normally I detest cyclists and runners, not to mention cars, while in my car I can't stand pedestrians, cyclists or indeed other car drivers.</p> <p>It must generally suck to be afraid of dogs when every man jack has their dog running loose as soon as it isn't likely to attack a car and come off worst.</p> <p>However, an appeal to age is a weak way of going about precedence. By that measure, bikes should have priority over all motorised traffic, while dog walkers would certainly take priority over those johnny-come-lately pram pushers. </p> <p>Neither do rules work, as we can see by looking at the general public's obedience of any of a wide swathe of rules and regulations. (Anyone broken copyright law by copying music from a CD they bought onto their computer? Tee hee!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66038 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 07:50:28 +0000 fimm 66038@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The request to dismount at the aqueduct is on a notice board with a lot of small writing, if you were cycling along you would be forgiven for not seeing it, in my opinion. I think the aqueduct is a place where "Cyclists dismount" is appropriate - the path is very narrow and awkward. I don't have the nerve to cycle it, myself!</p> <p>Not that this has anything to do with Harrison Park. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66014 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:45:21 +0000 gembo 66014@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Claggy Cog</p> <p>Another good link. THe comments were not many. Barry then Kg Salmo twice. Kg's second post was to point out to BWS that they weren't replying to posts, but here is his first post which is how we cyclists can be seen by some people and is food for thought [I think Kg is on the Slateford Aqueduct from his description)</p> <p>Very informative site with simple rules but a lot of cyclists appear not to know that there are rules and most do not comply. Just a few days ago I was asked to ' move' by a cyclist wanting to pass on a bridge (over the A70); he had coughed loudly as he came up behind me (no bell!). When advised that the path, at that point, is not wide enough for a both walker and cyclist he insisted but not too bravely as he forced past on the the side nearest the rail - not the water. Othe cyclists ride far too fast and it is alarming for walkers who invariably have to step off the path to avoid collision. It is clear that many cyclists assume they have sole rights to use the path. I walk the canal path everytime I visit Edinburgh and feel increasingly uncomfortable with the arrogance of a lot of the cyclists. They should understand that canal paths were originally for transit by people and horses - bicycle use came later. They must not be allowed to assume exclusivity by intimidating other users. I suggest that the rules for use of the canal path be posted at the access points along the canal - and at bridges - then enforce them (the fines might be a nice revenue source). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66013 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:41:01 +0000 Uberuce 66013@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wonder if the four cops seen in the Spotted thread dismounted? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66009 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:24:40 +0000 Claggy Cog 66009@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@uberuce - to be more specific.... if you open the tabs on the top of the waterspace page for your area this is what it says about the Union Canal but on the home page for Scotland it does say to dismount at bridges etc., however, it does not say it is a bye-law</p> <p><a href="http://www.scottishcanals.co.uk/our-canals/union-canal/cycling" rel="nofollow">http://www.scottishcanals.co.uk/our-canals/union-canal/cycling</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66007 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:19:25 +0000 gembo 66007@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@claggy cog I liked that link, e.g. thorny bushes can give you punctures. Trying to be helpful the site goes on to state</p> <p>Staying safe</p> <p>You should always take care when cycling by the water, particularly near<br /> locks and other areas of deep water.<br /> Access paths can be steep and slippery. Join or leave the towpath with care.<br /> You must get off and push your cycle beneath low or blind bridges, and where the path is very narrow.<br /> We recommend that you do not cycle towpaths after dark, but if you do, please use front and rear lights. Look out for mooring ropes and pegs where boats are tied up.<br /> Thorny hedge trimmings can cause a puncture at some times of year, particularly spring. When cycling in rural areas, always take a spare inner tube or puncture repair kit, and consider plastic-reinforced tyres.</p> <p>Plastic indeed - it is Kevlar bullet proof vest lining [will still succumb to hawthorn].</p> <p>So looks like Mr Public Man that Uberuce met had a certain logic. Some bridges are lower than others and some are more blind than others. I have seen people obeying the dismount sign on the aqueduct but I have never seen anyone dismount under bridges. You would be there all day. </p> <p>Due to detour home from Stirling tonight I can confirm the canal path at Falkirk was less wet than when I cycled it last year, also if you know your Aidan Moffat lyrics - the once bright roof of the pub was now a dull pastel green </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6178#post-66006 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:18:38 +0000 Uberuce 66006@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It does indeed. </p> <p>"Please note cyclists no longer have to dismount to go under a bridge." - London's COC. Presumably if the place you need a permit to cycle at all doesn't require dismounting, then an NCN path really won't. </p> <p>Also, there's no signs on any of them except the Leamington and the aqueduct. </p>