http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Proposed John Muir walking trail will run from Dunbar to Helensburgh en Wed, 13 May 2026 04:27:46 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-240902 Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:40:23 +0000 chdot 240902@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15023500.Picturesque_John_Muir_Way_gets_top_trail_accolade" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15023500.Picturesque_John_Muir_Way_gets_top_trail_accolade</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-214126 Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:57:21 +0000 chdot 214126@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>The public can join Stetson along the way, talking to “Muir” and hearing about his solo trips into the American wilderness, and the time he spent with US president Theodore Roosevelt, who asked if he could accompany him on an expedition in 1903.</p> <p>Events include Stetson performing stories about Muir’s boyhood in Scotland at the John Muir Wildlife Film Festival in Helensburgh, staging a show, The Spirit of John Muir, at Strathblane Parish Church, a book signing at Blackwell’s in Edinburgh and a range of events in Dunbar, including John Muir Lego characters and Minecraft sessions.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/john-muir-impersonator-from-us-honours-hero-on-scottish-tour-1-4065663" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/john-muir-impersonator-from-us-honours-hero-on-scottish-tour-1-4065663</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-153443 Wed, 14 May 2014 09:32:11 +0000 chdot 153443@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/14178482265/"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7389/14178482265_f606946470.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-152942 Sat, 10 May 2014 23:29:59 +0000 Snowy 152942@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aye, those'll be fun for pedestrians in frosty weather. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-152933 Sat, 10 May 2014 21:12:55 +0000 neddie 152933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not sure what contractors CEC are employing these days, but the top 2 new steps that connect to the newly tarmacked path on the John Muir Way near Pinkhill are shocking. They aren't even close to being level. I've no idea how they manage to make sloping concrete in a set of steps, but they've done it:</p> <p><a href="http://imgur.com/n8jHvbY"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/n8jHvbYl.jpg" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149917 Wed, 23 Apr 2014 00:25:46 +0000 Tulyar 149917@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I did that route around 20 years ago as a combined route check and Tour de Forth ride reviewing the RPCRP survey from 1983-4. Going over that bridge my rear wheel 'exploded' as corrosion fatigue radial fractures originating from the spoke hole ferrules, reached the critical % of remaining connected material, and I had to carry the bike to Hopetoun House, and get picked up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149911 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:10:08 +0000 chdot 149911@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/a-flag-for-john-muir" rel="nofollow">http://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/a-flag-for-john-muir</a></p> <p>(Lotsa pix) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149867 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:17:39 +0000 cb 149867@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"I ended up on the coastal path section which I can assure you is not suitable for bikes"</em></p> <p>That bit is supposed to be getting improved (see <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-114228">this</a> post upthread). I guess that hasn't happened yet...</p> <p><em>"Unless I'm missing something both cycling and walking here are on wide expanses of grass rather than any defined path"</em></p> <p>Don't think you are missing anything, that's the route.</p> <p>There was a <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=2788">CCE ride</a> that covered the Queensferry to Blackness bit a few years back (also Easter weekend). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149856 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:10:07 +0000 acsimpson 149856@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I ended up cycling the section of the route from Bo'ness to South Queensferry, although the first sign I saw for the JMW was after Blackness.</p> <p>I ended up on the coastal path section which I can assure you is not suitable for bikes. Parts of it were rideable but at other points the sea wall had collapsed and I was left scrambling over boulders. I've followed the Route 76 diversion before and this is on road so a much nicer ride.</p> <p>There were a few gates on the route which varied from inconvenient to downright awkward. Here's a few pictures with links to the locations (The first two are within 10yards of each other).</p> <p><a href="http://goo.gl/maps/GeYlY"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/1r0i91bh4b5mr63/IMG_20140421_171902.jpg?dl=1"></a><br /> This field and narrow bridge seems to be the official way for the cycle route to rejoin the walking route at Blackness. Unless I'm missing something both cycling and walking here are on wide expanses of grass rather than any defined path.</p> <p><a href="http://goo.gl/maps/GeYlY"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ym1e982ggargmv8/BEh23-cl8f/IMG_20140421_171845.jpg?dl=1"></a><br /> After crossing the field you then have to go through this gate. The latch is stiff and doesn't close automatically so you really need to dismount here. There is a gap in the fence just off the right of the picture so I'm not sure what the purpose of the gate is.</p> <p><a href="http://goo.gl/maps/nJoMG"><img src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwi8aknt2rc9isr/IMG_20140421_172836.jpg?dl=1"></a><br /> Once you approach Hopetoun House itself you need to pass through the deer fence twice. This takes the form of a large locked vehicle gate with swing gate bypasses for other use. As you can see from the picture passing though here with anything other than a normal bike will be tricky. I'm not sure it would be possible with a horse. This gate is the easier of two with the other <a href="http://goo.gl/maps/4Mmxd">(located here)</a>requiring a three point turn manoeuvre while holding a heavily sprung gate. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149772 Mon, 21 Apr 2014 17:35:52 +0000 chdot 149772@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/134-mile-john-muir-way-opened-1-3382949" rel="nofollow">http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/134-mile-john-muir-way-opened-1-3382949</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149768 Mon, 21 Apr 2014 16:19:05 +0000 chdot 149768@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/alex-salmond-opens-john-muir-walk-1-3382949" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/alex-salmond-opens-john-muir-walk-1-3382949</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149676 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:44:59 +0000 gembo 149676@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>About how unfriendly Peds and cyclists are in Edinburgh? They're not that bad. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149674 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:24:47 +0000 chdot 149674@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also an 8 page supplement in the Sunday Herald! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149670 Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:32:56 +0000 dg145 149670@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This featured on this week's 'Out of Doors' programme on Radio Scotland. The two presenters cycled the route from Helensburgh to Dunbar over a couple of days.</p> <p>Interestingly, they comment on how relatively unfriendly people (cyclists and peds) are when they hit Edinburgh. </p> <p>Probably available on iPlayer </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149579 Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:52:34 +0000 kaputnik 149579@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A bit on this in this week's Landward. Also interesting piece on the old Forth oyster trade </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-149368 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:08:16 +0000 chdot 149368@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> BBC Scotland News (@BBCScotlandNews)<br /> 17/04/2014 07:27<br /> Ready for a little walk? John Muir Way about to be opened across central Scotland <a href="http://bbc.in/1pc6Od2" rel="nofollow">http://bbc.in/1pc6Od2</a> <a href="http://pic.twitter.com/GyafGNHqa1" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/GyafGNHqa1</a></p> <p>"<br /> "</p> <p>Gavin Corbett (@gavincorbett)<br /> 17/04/2014 07:50<br /> @BBCScotlandNews @BBCDavidMiller Nice to see @JohnMuirWay sign along @scottishcanals towpath in Shandon this morning <a href="http://pic.twitter.com/OQniTfuQnx" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/OQniTfuQnx</a></p> <p>"</p> <p>"</p> <p>Nikki MacLeod (@jazznikki)<br /> 17/04/2014 08:08<br /> @BBCScotlandNews Tortuous Edinburgh route ridiculous. JMT should have insisted on it following coast line. @Edinburgh_CC @CyclingEdin</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220&page=2#post-148599 Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:06:16 +0000 gembo 148599@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The water of leith centre having a family fun day on 21.04.14 too. Also guided walks this bit you have to book for. Also note they do a really good plant sale, 10.05.14 in the morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-148589 Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:24:13 +0000 chdot 148589@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-muir-route-leads-to-extra-1m-for-city-1-3371717" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/new-muir-route-leads-to-extra-1m-for-city-1-3371717</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-148146 Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:54:03 +0000 chdot 148146@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Apr 21 John Muir Festival launch The John Muir walk/cycle recreational route, now extended from Dunbar to the West of Scotland, is launched in Dunbar at 9.30am by First Minister Alex Salmond, with music, stalls, etc. Cyclists can carry flags on the first leg, Dunbar to North Berwick. More info and registration link at <a href="http://www.johnmuirfestival.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnmuirfestival.com</a>.</p> <p>"</p> <p>From -</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/spwkr14.04.07.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/spwkr14.04.07.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-147717 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 21:40:14 +0000 chdot 147717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Edinburgh Outdoors (@EdinOutdoors)<br /> 03/04/2014 21:04<br /> Marker posts now in place at Corstorphine Hill for the new John Muir Way. </p> <p><a href="http://pic.twitter.com/r7DtNM4duE" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/r7DtNM4duE</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-147111 Sun, 30 Mar 2014 20:57:41 +0000 chdot 147111@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/13487786315/"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7330/13487786315_838dd01659.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-147109 Sun, 30 Mar 2014 20:53:03 +0000 ggovan 147109@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I accidentally did the Edinburgh to Prestonpans section yesterday (had meant to just go to Portobello, but took a different route and then just followed the signs).</p> <p>I thought it was a very nice route. It was well signed and the path was never unpleasant. The signage was good enough for me to follow, though looking at the map I see I did miss a bit. I joined the road in a few places rather than a shared use pavement. Would ride again.</p> <p>I'd be interested in using the route through to Balloch this summer. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-147033 Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:09:58 +0000 chdot 147033@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mentions on current Out of Doors</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0074hjr" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0074hjr</a></p> <p>Presenters cycled from west to east whole route. More on future programme. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-147002 Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:15:17 +0000 chdot 147002@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>belhaven bikes (@belhavenbikes)<br /> 29/03/2014 10:26<br /> @CyclingEdin Please RT, help promote @JMuirFestival 'Carry a Flag' 21 April 2014. Sign up <a href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-flag-for-john-muir-registration-10415345579" rel="nofollow">https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-flag-for-john-muir-registration-10415345579</a></p> <p><a href="http://pic.twitter.com/WoDmGMZwhj" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/WoDmGMZwhj</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-144474 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:49:51 +0000 I were right about that saddle 144474@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can't see many folk going out along the canal and back along the Water of Leith just to get from the Meadows to Murrayfield. Surely the whole point of a long distance path is to see the interesting stuff <em>en route</em>, like, you know...Edinburgh city centre? I'd have thought anyone adventurous enough to go coast to coast will cope with National Route 1 through town? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-144473 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:21:03 +0000 cb 144473@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also, I would have gone from Lochrin to Haymarket via the WAR zigzag then Douglas Crescent down to the Water of Leith, then Roseburn, Murrayfield Gardens, through the gap in the hedge to the Campbells then up the 'rest and be thankful' to Corstorphine.</p> <p>Cuts out a tedious loop on the canal - there's plenty canal further west. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-144472 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:19:08 +0000 chdot 144472@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Site needs some work. Maps don't behave in iOS - zoom sliders don't change map and PoI pins don't pop-up - or whatever they are meant to do. </p> <p>No 'full site' option. </p> <p><a href="http://johnmuirway.org" rel="nofollow">http://johnmuirway.org</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-144470 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:15:31 +0000 chdot 144470@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"or a tremendous number of stops for breathers, sightseeing, food, etc."</p> <p>"That'll be a leisurely holiday for some people." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-144469 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:14:38 +0000 cb 144469@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here are the maps for the Edinburgh sections:</p> <p><a href="http://johnmuirway.org/route/edinburgh-prestonpans">http://johnmuirway.org/route/edinburgh-prestonpans</a></p> <p><a href="http://johnmuirway.org/route/south-queensferry-edinburgh">http://johnmuirway.org/route/south-queensferry-edinburgh</a></p> <p>Not sure I agree with @jazznikki. I think if you've already trudged the coast all the way from Gullane in the east or Bo'ness in the west then you would welcome some inland bits.</p> <p>Although I might have been inclined to run in along the prom at Portobello, up the Restalrig path, through Lochend Park and then through the Queen's Park.</p> <p>Also, not sure why they missed the main spine of Corstorphine Hill opting for the streets to the west instead? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6220#post-144468 Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:13:36 +0000 crowriver 144468@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>True, it will be something to ride at a leisurely pace given the trails and use of the canal towpath. Even so, four days seems a bit much unless you have a lot of luggage or a tremendous number of stops for breathers, sightseeing, food, etc.</p> <p>If you wanted to ride it in a day you'd use the roads anyhow. </p>