http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Lothian Buses - Accessibility Review Outcome en Thu, 21 May 2026 20:33:46 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-77406 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:37:50 +0000 cb 77406@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.montrosereview.co.uk/news/local-headlines/on-the-bus-and-on-your-bike-1-2391469">http://www.montrosereview.co.uk/news/local-headlines/on-the-bus-and-on-your-bike-1-2391469</a></p> <p>"BUS PASSENGERS who wish to take their cycles with them are now able to do so on the Coastrider X7 service which travels through Montrose during its limited stop journeys between Dundee and Aberdeen." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66652 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:40:07 +0000 crowriver 66652@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've taken a bike on a First bus to get back from West Lothian one evening, after trains were cancelled. It was a folder though, and I folded it. I needn't have bothered really as there were only half a dozen passengers.</p> <p>I'd do something similar again without hesitation: but always with a folding bike, it removes a lot of uncertainty. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66635 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:48:20 +0000 Min 66635@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have hailed taxis from the street a couple of times with bike so I don't know which company but yes, no problem at all. One merely asked me to be careful as he had just had his seat covers replaced. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66633 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:42:07 +0000 Instography 66633@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've used taxis a couple of times to take bike to shops for repair. I just phoned city cabs and told them I was moving a bike and a willing driver showed up and told me what to do to get the bike in. Familiar enough with it to suggest it's not unknown to them to do it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66631 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:38:45 +0000 chdot 66631@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm sure Edinburgh 'black cabs' - and I assumed elsewhere - are obliged to take bikes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66630 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:37:19 +0000 Tulyar 66630@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Amir - worth loading link for Traintaxi - lists cab firms local to 3000 rail stations &amp; former rail stations, with contact numbers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66629 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:35:57 +0000 Tulyar 66629@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Back on buses - if bikes go inside &amp; use tip up seat spaces there is minimum delay (loading rack) and no need for massive special equipment (a securing strap and a bash plate to stop pedals/bars scraping the inside panels) In other words almost every low floor bus in operation can be used with a very low cost modification.</p> <p>Happens in Lake District, Snowdonia, Hadrians Wall, Sheffield, and Argyll officially - and elsewhere unofficially - eg Hamilton Strathaven. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66627 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:33:32 +0000 amir 66627@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I am most likely to need a cab in the middle of nowhere when either my bike or me has failed. I sometimes take a list of taxi firms or a smart phone with that in mind. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66626 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:28:21 +0000 Tulyar 66626@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>London is possible pilot but if Edinburgh is going to be easier (and fewer cabs to kit out with bike securing straps etc) it may move faster in Edinburgh.</p> <p>Can discuss this off-forum with potential sponsors of kit to deliver cycle friendly taxis - it could mean Edinburgh has a first of offering free bike carriage (you still pay full fares), on any cab signing up as cycle friendly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66625 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:23:29 +0000 Tulyar 66625@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bike racks on front in EU are illegal due to the sharp leading edges on the bikes and other factors when in collision with pedestrians &amp; cyclists.</p> <p>TRL 592 report refers in detail </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66624 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:23:27 +0000 Roibeard 66624@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've always assumed that a cab was an option, although I've been close enough to walk home with breakdowns...</p> <p>However a search of both the City Cab and Central Taxi websites shows no mention of bikes.</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66623 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:21:44 +0000 Tulyar 66623@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Forgot to add - in the surveys nearly 20% of a general consumer survey said they would definitely consider cycling if they could put their bike in a taxi when they overstretched their capabilities, and over 70% of cyclists said they would if the facility was available (ie adding those who didn't know to the 20% who were already aware of the option)</p> <p>Very few bike racks on buses but we could do a poll on who uses Stagecoach Express coaches to get to Fife, and First on the Dunbar Express service (X24?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66622 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:17:15 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 66622@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Certainly in the States (and Canada?) there are buses with bike racks mounted to the front. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66620 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:15:06 +0000 Instography 66620@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Are there not plenty of places where buses have racks for bikes? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66617 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:09:56 +0000 Min 66617@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have had my bike in a cab a couple of times no problem. Buses I am less sure about, I don't think I have ever been in a position where I have wanted to put my bike on a bus but it doesn't seem like too bad an idea, especially at night. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6235#post-66616 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:05:43 +0000 Tulyar 66616@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://lothianbuses.com/news/2-general-news/1065-lothian-buses-accessibility-review.html" rel="nofollow">http://lothianbuses.com/news/2-general-news/1065-lothian-buses-accessibility-review.html</a></p> <p>With the newest (and longer) buses having a greater amount of 'flexible' space on the lower deck, it is good to note that buggies can now be taken on unfolded, and presumably this also makes it less of a hassle taking a folded bike on board.</p> <p>Time perhaps to review (along with Edinburgh Cabs) the options of carrying non folded cycles both when these are in effect a Class 1 Invalid Carriage, for a person who meets the criteria to qualify as an invalid carriage user, and to equally consider carrying cycles generally on night services - given the indications from a London cyclists survey where 38% of women said they would cycle more if the option of getting a cab home with their bike late at night was available. </p> <p>Should we try a poll If you could put your bike on a bus (or in a cab) when conditions prevent or deter you from cycling would you use your bike more?</p> <p>Would you use this for breakdown recovery?<br /> Would you use this to avoid a long or unpleasant ride?<br /> Is there a particular road/route you have in mind?<br /> Would you use this facility to travel late at night/early morning?<br /> Are there routes you have in mind?<br /> If using a bus would you pay a supplemental fare for the bike if this guaranteed completion of the trip?<br /> (supplemental fares would balance against the cost of a taxi or other means to complete a journey if the space was required for other users).<br /> How often would you use a facility to put your bike on a bus?<br /> Would this be for late/early journeys?<br /> Would this be for 'breakdown' (including the rider)?</p> <p>For cabs in particular I'm keen to see how the facility to put bikes in a cab can be rolled out as an accepted practice - there is a development for London in the pipeline which could be very interesting and could be sponsored for other locations like Edinburgh &amp; Glasgow. (the current 'success rate' for the 20% of London cyclists who do occasionally put bikes in cabs is 75% - 1 in 4 refused) </p>