http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: New Lord Provost unveils eco-friendly ambitions en Fri, 22 May 2026 04:31:25 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489&page=2#post-91974 Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:52:51 +0000 cb 91974@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/edinburgh-lord-provost-s-green-car-aims-fuel-challenge-to-bin-bmw-1-2651841">http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/edinburgh-lord-provost-s-green-car-aims-fuel-challenge-to-bin-bmw-1-2651841</a></p> <p>"He said: “I know you are still having to use the old energy-hungry cars because I saw you in one of them recently when I passed you on my bike as you were stuck in a traffic jam near Balgreen. As a society we need to break the link that says status equals big car and big car equals status. " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489&page=2#post-69751 Wed, 09 May 2012 20:00:53 +0000 Zenfrozt 69751@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>possibly sticking my head above the wrong parapet here...but it's a start isn't it? At least a prius would definitely be better for the world than the bmw?<br /> You can't make someone run before they can walk. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489&page=2#post-69729 Wed, 09 May 2012 17:02:03 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 69729@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>... since McCrone teachers are actually reasonably <strike>well</strike> paid...</em>"</p> <p>FTFY.</p> <p>Couldn't pay me enough. Hard job that (my ex was a primary teacher). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489&page=2#post-69727 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:55:46 +0000 crowriver 69727@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>This seems a little mean spirited - the Scotsman article says the new Lord Provost is a teacher at Newbattle High in Dalkeith and lives in Stenhouse. Hardly sounds like he is rolling in cash - would you rather he hadn't installed solar panels or bought a fuel efficient car? I would imagine he is well disposed towards cycling due to his green views, even if he doesn't cycle himself.</p> <p>I think we should focus on cultivating allies rather than attacking well intentioned people before they have even taken up office.</em></p> <p>Of course. Only joking.</p> <p>It's great that he is considering his energy usage. The point that folk were making is that while hybrid or electric vehicles may produce less CO2 than monster truck 4x4s, they're still not exactly sustainable when you consider the resources necessary to produce them, charge the batteries, etc.</p> <p>Still, the Scotsman journos seem impressed. I anticipate a rush of them purchasing Priapus hybrids when they 'refresh' their vehicles next year.</p> <p>As to teachers rolling in cash, maybe not compared to professionals working in the private sector, but since McCrone teachers are actually reasonably well paid, especially if a head of department or similar. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489&page=2#post-69726 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:46:22 +0000 crowriver 69726@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>his kids must be at school now. maybe they'll give someone else a shot on it?</em></p> <p>I have only anecdotal evidence that it's being used for kid ferrying. I've definitely seen it in the Drill Hall though. How exactly Out Of The Blue got their hands on it is rather mysterious, however. Presumably the Bike Station did not have the space at the time, or just preferred the sleeker Bullitt cargo bikes. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489&page=2#post-69713 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:19:27 +0000 wingpig 69713@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose substracting even a single Beemer from the city's streets can only be a good thing for cyclists. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69712 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:17:06 +0000 SRD 69712@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Not a Bakfiets, a Christiana trike - the powder blue one, scroll down for photo on web site. Out Of The Blue have it now, use it to transport food for the café at Dalmeny St. Also I understand the café manager does the school/nursery run with it..."</p> <p>his kids must be at school now. maybe they'll give someone else a shot on it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69711 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:16:58 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 69711@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What he said... ^^^</p> <p>*shuts up again* </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69708 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:10:47 +0000 Morningsider 69708@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This seems a little mean spirited - the Scotsman article says the new Lord Provost is a teacher at Newbattle High in Dalkeith and lives in Stenhouse. Hardly sounds like he is rolling in cash - would you rather he hadn't installed solar panels or bought a fuel efficient car? I would imagine he is well disposed towards cycling due to his green views, even if he doesn't cycle himself.</p> <p>I think we should focus on cultivating allies rather than attacking well intentioned people before they have even taken up office. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69705 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:53:08 +0000 crowriver 69705@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>We could club together on here and present the new one with a Spokes map and some printouts of charts showing the distribution of mean annual earnings across the city's population versus the cost of various hybrid electric vehicles.</em></p> <p>Good idea! </p> <p>Another chart with mean annual earnings versus the cost of instaling solar panels?</p> <p>Lord Provost: "I can run the tumble dryer, air conditioning and the hot tub, and still feel good about my carbon footprint thanks to investing in solar panels. And whilst I'm out at work, the feed-in tarriff is bringing in extra cash! Now I can afford a <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Pompeya_erótica6.jpg">Priapus</a>!" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69704 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:48:52 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 69704@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm just going to shut up now... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69703 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:45:46 +0000 crowriver 69703@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The former Lord Provost was presented with a Bakfiets at the Danish cycling thnig that was on at the Botanics a few years back. I believe it got donated to the Bike Station?</em></p> <p>Not a Bakfiets, a <a href="http://www.christianiabikes.com/english/uk_main.htm">Christiana trike</a> - the powder blue one, scroll down for photo on web site. <a href="http://www.outoftheblue.org.uk/">Out Of The Blue</a> have it now, use it to transport food for the café at Dalmeny St. Also I understand the café manager does the school/nursery run with it... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69701 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:19:02 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 69701@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't have time to read entire threads! Sheesh!</p> <p>Anyway, I hear the Lord Provost is planning on giving up his BMW for a Prius and Lesley Hinds might be the next Transport bod at the Council&gt; Remember, you heard it here first. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69700 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:18:21 +0000 Min 69700@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"Prii? Priae?"</em></p> <p>Priapus </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69699 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:16:39 +0000 wingpig 69699@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"'...drive Priuses...'"</p> <p>"Prii? Priae?"</em></blockquote></p> <p>I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer posted <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69649">above</a>.</p> <p>We could club together on here and present the new one with a Spokes map and some printouts of charts showing the distribution of mean annual earnings across the city's population versus the cost of various hybrid electric vehicles. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69697 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:10:51 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 69697@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"...[i]drive Priuses[/.]..."</p> <p>Prii? Priae?</p> <p>The former Lord Provost was presented with a Bakfiets at the Danish cycling thnig that was on at the Botanics a few years back. I believe it got donated to the Bike Station? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69695 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:03:24 +0000 wingpig 69695@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Robes? He'll need a mixte or step-through, then.<br /> Even if people in figurehead/mascot positions don't have much power (beyond the occasional casting vote) the slightly raised platform from which their opinions might be aired could be risky if they come out with anthing along the lines of "let them install solar panels and drive Priuses" in response to the need for greater greenliness. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69693 Wed, 09 May 2012 14:55:07 +0000 Instography 69693@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, like the Speaker of the House. Potentially embarassing (thinking of Eric Milligan and the flash loo he had installed) but not powerful. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69672 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:49:20 +0000 kaputnik 69672@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Provost is just there to shake hands, wear robes and get driven around in presidential Beamer / Prius, therefore ultimately harmless, yes? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69660 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:23:42 +0000 crowriver 69660@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Further from the manifesto statement:</p> <p>Labour is proposing a two-year period of ‘stability’ in which the only work will be on the everyday repairs and maintenance and improving cycling safety “Except for one really important piece of work,” she says “which is putting some life back into Leith Walk and especially the historic heart of our city after the battering they’ve both had from tram works. That means putting the needs of the pedestrian first. Pavements have to be levelled and repaired, clutter and unnecessary signs cleared out, crossings made simple and safe. After all, it’s pedestrians who spend money in shops and cafes and visit our museums and gardens. They are the life-blood of the city centre and they must take first place.”</p> <p>Actually sounds pretty good.</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/councillors/19/lesley_hinds" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/councillors/19/lesley_hinds</a></p> <p>These are the 60 ideas on transport which came out of Labour's manifesto consultation:</p> <p><a href="http://lesleydoestransport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/sixty-ideas.html" rel="nofollow">http://lesleydoestransport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/sixty-ideas.html</a></p> <p>Cllr Hinds signed the POP petition:</p> <p><a href="http://lesleydoestransport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/pedal-on-parliament.html" rel="nofollow">http://lesleydoestransport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/pedal-on-parliament.html</a></p> <p>She also likes Spokes it seems:</p> <p><a href="http://lesleydoestransport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/impressed-by-cyclists.html" rel="nofollow">http://lesleydoestransport.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/impressed-by-cyclists.html</a></p> <p>"It shows the power of consistent, courteous and well-argued views." she writes.</p> <p>Presumably this is how Cllr Hinds will prefer to be approached when she is transport convener. Consistent, courteous, and well-argued views. Over to you, Dave du Feu! :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69658 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:21:02 +0000 crowriver 69658@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“There are three immediate priorities for Labour”, says Councillor Hinds. “We want to make the utility companies, who dig up our roads, far more responsive to local people. We want to restore the health of the city centre after the battering it’s taken from the botched tram works by making it much more comfortable for pedestrians. And, most important, we want to set up a Transport Forum of experts and citizens to think through our modern transport needs. Mapping the way forward for our common prosperity is a complex challenge, so we will need some time, a breathing space to do that work.”</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghlabour.com/2012/03/cllr-lesley-hinds-at-manifesto-launch.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghlabour.com/2012/03/cllr-lesley-hinds-at-manifesto-launch.html</a></p> <p><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wx1078XtfZ0/T19Txr7_TYI/AAAAAAAAAYw/AEZ4iUqLPx0/s320/lesleyjohannandrewlaunch.jpg"></p> <p>When you see that photo of the manifesto launch, there is no doubt in my mind that Cllr Hinds will be transport convener for Edinburgh. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69657 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:15:32 +0000 crowriver 69657@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It seems Labour intend to take on the transport portfolio. Hinds is Labour transport spokesperson. Ergo, she is very likely to get the job.</p> <p>If anyone here lives in Inverleith ward, you can pester her as a local elector once/if she's appointed transport supremo. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69656 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:13:54 +0000 chdot 69656@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Only just read <a href="http://www.edinburghlabour.com/2012/03/cycling-in-capital-lets-improve-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghlabour.com/2012/03/cycling-in-capital-lets-improve-it.html</a> - actually pretty encouraging.</p> <p>She wasn't great at the Spokes Hustings, </p> <p>On one hand it was nice to hear her (as a politician) admit she was 'new to this', but she seemed low down on the learning curve. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69655 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:09:51 +0000 chdot 69655@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Anyway, it's Lesley Hinds we want to be worrying about"</p> <p>Not <em>certain</em> she'll get the job.</p> <p>At least she is a bus user.</p> <p>Her husband cycles and she's said she's 'too scared', so might actually be more understanding than many. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69653 Wed, 09 May 2012 13:02:21 +0000 crowriver 69653@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyway, it's Lesley Hinds we want to be worrying about, not the Provost. (See above and below).</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghlabour.com/2012/03/cycling-in-capital-lets-improve-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghlabour.com/2012/03/cycling-in-capital-lets-improve-it.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://mccraw.co.uk/spokes-hustings-edinburgh-elections/" rel="nofollow">http://mccraw.co.uk/spokes-hustings-edinburgh-elections/</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1770" rel="nofollow">http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1770</a></p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6071" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6071</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69651 Wed, 09 May 2012 12:58:40 +0000 chdot 69651@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="mailto:donald.wilson@edinburgh.gov.uk">donald.wilson@edinburgh.gov.uk</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/councillors/29/donald_wilson" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/councillors/29/donald_wilson</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69650 Wed, 09 May 2012 12:58:29 +0000 cb 69650@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Prii and solar panels are quite non-committal routes to greenliness, in that they require no lifestyle adjustments."</p> <p>And also require a certain level of personal well-off-ness. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69649 Wed, 09 May 2012 12:55:05 +0000 wingpig 69649@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>'But at least we could shout at them "why don't you pay some road tax?"'</em></blockquote></p> <p>At least we wouldn't have to shout too loudly, if they were all running in electrical mode. There'd be no tyre noise as they wouldn't be moving.</p> <p>Prii and solar panels are quite non-committal routes to greenliness, in that they require no lifestyle adjustments. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69648 Wed, 09 May 2012 12:54:36 +0000 crowriver 69648@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>An eco-friendly lord provost that is only interested in driving. Great.</em></p> <p>But cycling is <em>hard work</em> and <em>dangerous</em>. I mean, 3,000 folk turned up the other week to protest about how dangerous it was! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6489#post-69647 Wed, 09 May 2012 12:53:14 +0000 crowriver 69647@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Labour intends to take on the transport portfolio, including overseeing the trams, which is regarded as one of the most high-profile positions. Former lord provost Lesley Hinds is among the likely candidates for the role."</p> <p>So, five more years of shared use paths then. Hope she rolls out more 20mph zones. </p>