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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: CCG? http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: CCG? en Mon, 06 Apr 2026 02:07:47 +0000 recombodna on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70176 Fri, 11 May 2012 18:23:17 +0000 recombodna 70176@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ B.A.C.K. S.H.I.E.L.D.... I know who does that one......... I have a S.H.I.E.L.D card.... I can't say any more or I'll be wiped!!! wingpig on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70161 Fri, 11 May 2012 15:30:09 +0000 wingpig 70161@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ There was a chalked S.H.I.E.L.D. on one of the Caledonian Hotel's ridges until at least 2007 and a few stickers on lamp-posts appearing until at least 2008. kaputnik on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70160 Fri, 11 May 2012 15:15:33 +0000 kaputnik 70160@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ B.A.C.K. S.H.I.E.L.D or was that 90s? I haven't seen one in ages. Last I remember was around about 2006 on scaffolding at top end of Montpelier Park. chdot on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70152 Fri, 11 May 2012 14:09:25 +0000 chdot 70152@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "McCabe grass" Ah yes, a very frequently seen bit of graffiti. I have photos (pre-digital, will be in a box somewhere!) Now such things would be more likely be part of an eca degree show project! Of course Edinburgh gangs were always a bit tame - compared with Glasgow. No idea if there was any crossover between neighbourhood gangs and football casuals. recombodna on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70144 Fri, 11 May 2012 13:54:34 +0000 recombodna 70144@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ ah ccs ...... bringing back terrifying memories of Edinburgh in the mid 80's! YLT , McCabe grass and beast. Denim and who could forget Marilyn Clark 36 fae the jewel hus A**s..... Stepdoh on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70139 Fri, 11 May 2012 13:46:07 +0000 Stepdoh 70139@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Capital City Service? Sounds like a garage or a cleaning company. The Boy on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70122 Fri, 11 May 2012 12:30:07 +0000 The Boy 70122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Incidentally (and just so it's clear I wasn't intending on treading on toes) my suggestion was more along the lines of chdot's link further up the thread. CCE remaining as is, where people could access directly or through a CCS portal with links to other city fora and bicycle related links for Scotland. If I was a management-speak-type I may through something in here about facilitating the cross-polination of ideas. But I'm not. wingpig on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70023 Thu, 10 May 2012 22:06:14 +0000 wingpig 70023@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Wait indeed. That would be Cyclisme des Villes Ecossais. Decent webforumthings, like interesting conversations, usually just happen by themselves, rather than being planned. kaputnik on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70021 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:42:46 +0000 kaputnik 70021@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ City Cycling Ecosse? Wait... Nelly on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-70020 Thu, 10 May 2012 21:32:30 +0000 Nelly 70020@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Whatever happens, can I suggest you dont brand anything CCS? This has certain resonance with a particular brand of (Leith based) football hooligan from the 1980s and would appear in google searches by those who may glorify that sort of thing. Back OT - I like the local feel of CCE, have been in large forums before, and they are just not as friendly as this. I like that we can have PY fridays regularly. I cant see why a CCG wouldnt be a success though - perhaps Magnatom should spearhead it. crowriver on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69993 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:49:42 +0000 crowriver 69993@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @chdot, addendum linkiness: Bycycle – Perth & Kinross cycle campaign – <a href="http://www.bycycle.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.bycycle.org.uk</a> (They produced some really handy cycle maps of Perthshire) Local CTC groups: Fife & Kinross Tayside Dumfries & Galloway Glasgow Highland (Please Googol them for links so I don't get spam bot zapped) DaveC on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69991 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:46:13 +0000 DaveC 69991@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Hmmmm... CCE dropping the E (perhaps in favour of an S?? I have these two round things on my bike. They're great appart from the odd puncture and rims wearing out every year or two. But I can't help thinking there is some thing lacking... Is anyone a comptent designer. I could do with someting invented as a better replacement. A bit like re inventing the wheel¿¿¿ crowriver on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69990 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:37:49 +0000 crowriver 69990@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ 5% for 10%. 5 for 10. September. Scotland wide. Start planning! :-) chdot on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69989 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:34:21 +0000 chdot 69989@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "@crowriver. Ah. I'd assumed that was a Scotland wide thing" Sort of - "We’re convinced that financial investment and infrastructural change are essential and with that in mind, our manifesto asks for 5% of the transport budget be allocated to cycling-related investment – surely 5% is not too much to ask for the cost of 10% of journeys? " <a href="http://pedalonparliament.org/pedal-on-parliament-what-now" rel="nofollow">http://pedalonparliament.org/pedal-on-parliament-what-now</a> Darkerside on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69986 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:29:00 +0000 Darkerside 69986@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @crowriver. Ah. I'd assumed that was a Scotland wide thing. Boo, hiss, etc. chdot on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69983 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:10:44 +0000 chdot 69983@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I'm sure I have missed plenty of obvious ones - <a href="http://citycyclingscotland.wordpress.com/groupsorganisations" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingscotland.wordpress.com/groupsorganisations</a> crowriver on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69980 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:05:59 +0000 crowriver 69980@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "there should be money in the pot to spend if people ask for it with the 5% of transport budget thing." Are Glasgow City Council doing that too? I thought it was just Edinburgh? crowriver on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509&page=2#post-69978 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:02:39 +0000 crowriver 69978@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "no one will care about the name" Dunno about that. Some Glaswegians are very particular about anything that hails from east of the Falkirk Wheel... Kirst on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69977 Thu, 10 May 2012 17:01:42 +0000 Kirst 69977@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Salt n sauce, salt n vinegar. Darkerside on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69960 Thu, 10 May 2012 16:21:31 +0000 Darkerside 69960@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Some clarification: I agree CCE should stay as it is. Leaving aside all the obvious (and completely valid) points like "it's chdot's" and 'don't break something that works really well', it makes sense to keep a strong community at the seat of government. I know CCE is so much more than a lobbying tool, but it's still a benefit to the entirety of Scotland that it remains active. Whilst I know a lot of people use CCE without being in Edinburgh, there's still that block to new members searching for 'cycling+glasgow' and not finding it. Plus if someone were to post up, say, a problem with a road in Glasgow (I tweeted a diesel spill a while back), it would just clog the CCE board up. I do think that Glasgow is probably at the point where it might be able to support a 'non-specialist' forum. There's more cyclists (crucially), infrastructure is (kind of) improving, there should be money in the pot to spend if people ask for it with the 5% of transport budget thing. If it flops horribly so be it, but as has kind of been mentioned by others, it might not. I can, er, have a look over the weekend? I'm not up to date with forum stuff, but I am moderately techy and, as ever, Google Is My Friend. chdot on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69956 Thu, 10 May 2012 16:10:06 +0000 chdot 69956@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "no one will care about the name" Steady on! Instography on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69952 Thu, 10 May 2012 15:59:54 +0000 Instography 69952@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "I think we should give chdot space and respect enough to keep CCE as it is." Sure. Just piping up. I'm very happy with it as it is and nature will take its course. If CCE becomes the nucleus around which interested people start to cluster, no one will care about the name. Wilmington's Cow on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69930 Thu, 10 May 2012 14:49:55 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 69930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ What Crowriver said... Specifically on, "I do recall fairly widespread scepticism from forum members about the effectiveness of demos, campaigns, etc. back in January before the protest outside St Andrews House" I was one of those dissenting voices, most of my secpticism coming from where it was aimed at (i.e. not the Parliament, which PoP then solved) but I'll gladly accept that it seemed to have more of an effect than I thought would be possible. Always happy to admit I'm wrong (one of the reasons I'm a rubbish EEN commenter), especially if by being wrong it means things turned out better than I'd thought. Min on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69927 Thu, 10 May 2012 14:43:09 +0000 Min 69927@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "I think we should give chdot space and respect enough to keep CCE as it is. " Amen. Further confessions of Min... I've said too much already.. Stepdoh on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69917 Thu, 10 May 2012 14:16:33 +0000 Stepdoh 69917@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Och, bloody Kaputnik got there first. DAMN HIM! Stepdoh on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69916 Thu, 10 May 2012 14:15:52 +0000 Stepdoh 69916@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CCE - Yep! CCS with specific city chats - Yep, great idea. But, what we have at CCE is a developed and engaged community that is very rare in the world of Forum. The fact we're almost devoid of haterz is an even bigger achievement. Think the safety net here is that most of us actually know each other in some sense. Bring it out of the village and it would dilute this significantly. Now, thinking about CCW. :) kaputnik on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69915 Thu, 10 May 2012 14:15:15 +0000 kaputnik 69915@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ What Crowriver said. CCE as it is has a certain charm and decency about it, perhaps because it is confined largely to a small geography and people either know, or may come to know, the other forum users. The relative peace and harmony of the place is somewhat unique in my experience of forums. But ultimately as Chdot says, there's nothign stopping anyone joining in and taking part. Even if there is an E in the forum name. There are many non-Edinburgh regulars (and I'm sure many more passing users), but Edinburgh is nearly always the common denominator bringing them here. crowriver on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69914 Thu, 10 May 2012 14:13:24 +0000 crowriver 69914@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Oh and I also think it's important to distinguish CCE from campaigns like POP*. Spokes is a campaign group, as is Go Bike. CCE may have been a central catalyst for POP happening, but is a separate entity and does not have campaigning as a focus necessarily.** I do recall fairly widespread scepticism from forum members about the effectiveness of demos, campaigns, etc. back in January before the protest outside St Andrews House. The fact that the campaign and demo succeeded in persuading ministers to rethink the cuts to active travel perhaps inspired some folk to take things further and get involved with POP. It may well be that such activities carry on and are organised through CCE, but the forum is also a social space, a cycling-specific one (sorry Mikael) and also city-specific to Edinburgh (and environs). * - which, lest we forget, was started by a Glasgow cyclist! ** - except that anything broadly 'pro-cycling' including CCE can be seen as a campaign to change the status quo of the 'great car economy'/spectacle. crowriver on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69910 Thu, 10 May 2012 13:44:48 +0000 crowriver 69910@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I think we should give chdot space and respect enough to keep CCE as it is. There's no need to try and graft a Scotland-wide remit onto this forum. If there is a need/demand for a forum in Glasgow/elsewhere beyond what exists already, it should be allowed to happen at its own speed and take whatever form it wishes. chdot on "CCG?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6509#post-69909 Thu, 10 May 2012 13:44:27 +0000 chdot 69909@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "don't think it would hurt CCE at all to quietly drop the E" CCE - E = CC Room for confusion - <a href="http://citycycling.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://citycycling.co.uk</a>