http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Manifesto(s) mentions cycling en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:03:23 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651&page=2#post-6189 Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:37:41 +0000 SRD 6189@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone else at the EUSA/ Edinburgh south hustings? (there were a few other non-students in cycling kit). No mention of cycling, although some of transport generally (trams, forth road bridge, heathrow runways) and a fair bit on the environment. </p> <p>On trams (and edinburgh traffic more generally), Fred Macintosh (libdem) made argument that 'we are building city size of falkirk at bottom of Leith walk' and that we need more than buses to provide transport. Also that we need to be a competitive, growing city, but that 'perhaps it could have been done better'. Good defence of an unpopular policy, put in context of what transport does for a city. But most debate curtailed by chair, who suggested that it wasn't a 'westminster topic'. Which was sort of a pity, but probably a good move, because question asked in quite a single issue way, when most questions allowed for a more general discussion, which worked better. </p> <p>Have to say that all the candidates spoke well and thoughtfully. Not much cheap-point scoring (except for some attacks on the student union politics, which was interesting). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651&page=2#post-5875 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:46:50 +0000 Kim 5875@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well, yes, there is a difference between a planned change in transport and an emergency shut down. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651&page=2#post-5874 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:45:20 +0000 chdot 5874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@anth</p> <p>you forget...</p> <p>motorists = voters</p> <p>air travel = economic development</p> <p>Has anyone done the figures on</p> <p>'Value of inward investment/extra exports due to businesspersons flying in' <em>minus</em> 'balance of tourist expenditure abroad minus foreign tourism spending here'? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651&page=2#post-5872 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:40:00 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 5872@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, well Salmond was on the telly talking about ashmageddon yesterday and stated that what we needed to do when the airspace is open again is 'get the maximum number of flights in the air as possible'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5871 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:34:43 +0000 chdot 5871@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tuesday and two come along at once</p> <p><a href="http://www.snp.org/system/files/SNP+Manifesto+2010+web.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.snp.org/system/files/SNP+Manifesto+2010+web.pdf</a></p> <p>No cycling. </p> <p>Transport -</p> <p>"demand a fair fuel regulator to protect motorists from soaring fuel prices and work to make sure Scotland is part of the first phase of the UK high speed rail network."</p> <p>"Taking forward the green economy is of course about more than renewables and that’s why Scotland must be part of the first phase of the proposed UK high speed rail network. This move will boost business and reduce carbon emissions by delivering an effective alternative to domestic flights. It will take 30 years for high speed rail to reach Scotland under Labour or Tory plans and this is not acceptable."</p> <p>"Connecting Scotland is also an important part of our approach to economic growth. The new Borders Railway will provide direct access for many communities to Edinburgh, boosting local jobs and local economies. Similarly, the faster journey times by train from Aberdeen and Inverness, the improvements on the a9 and a96 and the green light for the Aberdeen by-pass will also deliver social and economic benefits for communities in the north and north east. and we will take forwardthe crucial Forth Replacement Crossing, in the face of the cuts proposed by the government in London. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5870 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:25:03 +0000 chdot 5870@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today - Scottish Greens Manifesto</p> <p><a href="http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/sendfile.php?id=6399" rel="nofollow">http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/sendfile.php?id=6399</a></p> <p>"We need better facilities for cyclists and better quality public transport to help people get out of their cars.”</p> <p>"On transport, we would:</p> <p>make streets more friendly for people to walk and cycle, not just with pavements and cycle lanes but also by reducing dependence on the car and through measures such as speed limits and traffic calming</p> <p>work with industry and other EU member states to agree standards for electric vehicles, and begin the long term strategic planning needed to provide charging points in time for these vehicles coming onto the market</p> <p>seek to renationalise the railway network, and invest in making stations accessible for all </p> <p>expand the high speed rail network, which must be built to serve Scotland, not just London and the southern half of the UK</p> <p>oppose airport expansion, to ensure that carbon cuts elsewhere are not wasted</p> <p>decrease demand for transport through stronger local economies to meet communities’ needs, and through home working" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5799 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:55:56 +0000 chdot 5799@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"This seems to be a serious thread"</p> <p>Perhaps, but comprehensive is good. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5798 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:38:07 +0000 cb 5798@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This seems to be a serious thread so perhaps I shouldn't add this here, however the Monster Raving Loony party have launched their manifesto and are calling for...</p> <p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8628230.stm">Floating bikes to aid transport</a></p> <p>Sounds like a vote winner to me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5715 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:47:53 +0000 chdot 5715@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"FROM GEORGE KEREVAN<br /> SNP CANDIDATE, EDINBURGH EAST</p> <p>I am happy to endorse the Vote Bike Manifesto.</p> <p>We all know that cycle use in Scotland is a miserable one per cent of all journeys. You have my commitment to work towards achieving nearer the European level.</p> <p>I note that the Scottish Government’s cycle action plan (Scotland’s first) will propose getting us to 10 per cent of all journeys by bike by 2020. Actually, we have no choice if we are to hit the 42 per cent reduction target for emissions.</p> <p>I also note that Spokes suggests that total public investment from all sources in cycling in Scotland is around one per cent of the transport budget. As a Westminster MP, you have my assurance to work to ensure that figure is increased – in relative and absolute terms.</p> <p>Also I am always open to help and advice on this issue.</p> <p>Yours<br /> George Kerevan<br /> SNP candidate for Edinburgh East.<br /> <a href="mailto:Brunstane@aol.com">Brunstane@aol.com</a><br /> " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5707 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:17:24 +0000 SRD 5707@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mark is a fabulous MP. Sigh. I was very sad to move out of his constituency. </p> <p>Good for Mckay as well (although isn't he the one who the EEN says is in Australia? hope he wasn't planning on flying back soon...)</p> <p>ADMIN EDIT</p> <p>He's back</p> <p><a href="http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Lib-Dem-candidate-I39m-home.6251321.jp" rel="nofollow">http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/topstories/Lib-Dem-candidate-I39m-home.6251321.jp</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5706 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:13:54 +0000 chdot 5706@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The CTC is asking all candidates throughout the UK to sign up to its "<a href="http://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=5371">Vote Bike Manifesto</a>".</p> <p>So far (15th April) only two of Edinburgh's 24 candidates have signed.</p> <p><strong>Mr Mark Lazarowicz, Edinburgh North and Leith, Labour</strong> -</p> <p>"I support all these points. Indeed, I think we should be seeking to be even more ambitious - other countries can do it! I have been a keen supporter of the All-Party cycling group here in Parliament, and have also been a member of Spokes, the Lothian cycle campaign, for 25 years or so (the only MP to be a member, I think).</p> <p>I also promoted these types of policies in Edinburgh when a member of the City Council.</p> <p>I regularly cycle in Edinburgh at home, and also regularly cycle to and from the House of Commons when in Westminster."" </p> <p><strong>Mr Tim McKay, Edinburgh South West, Liberal Democrat</strong> -</p> <p>"As a keen road cyclist, I am happy to back this manifesto, particularly number two, as some cyclists give us a bad name with their poor road sense"" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5656 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:44:57 +0000 chdot 5656@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thursday is Green (in England and Wales)</p> <p>"<br /> transport</p> <p>Promoting safety and sustainability</p> <p>The emphasis in transport policy should be upon improving access to local facilities and everyday transport. We would prioritise transport modes according to the following hierarchy:</p> <p>1. Walking and cycling<br /> 2. Public transport (trains, trams and buses) and rail freight<br /> 3. Cars<br /> 4. Heavy goods vehicles<br /> 5. Flying</p> <p>To encourage walking and cycling for shorter journeys and improve road safety we would:</p> <p>• Reduce speed limits (e.g. to 20mph in built-up areas, including villages).</p> <p>• Make streets safe; make them public spaces again. Plan for mixed-use developments where shops, housing and businesses are closely located and connected by pavements and cycleways.</p> <p>• Introduce a maximum speed limit of 55mph on motorways and trunk roads, and 40mph on rural roads, to make them safer for all road users.</p> <p>• Introduce schemes such as Home Zones, Safe Routes to School and pedestrianisation.</p> <p>• Ensure that at least 10% of transport spending is on securing a shift to more active travel like walking and cycling.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/resources/Manifesto_web_file.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/resources/Manifesto_web_file.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5650 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:41:05 +0000 Dave 5650@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interestingly the cyclist dismount and cycle lane signs are one of a very few blue signs (think one way street arrows for example) which you don't have to follow.</p> <p>However it must be tempting for those in power to know they could harmonise so easily... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5649 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:05:04 +0000 chdot 5649@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Local authorities should be given additional powers to enforce a 'cyclists dismount' or 'no cycling' regulation where there are safety concerns – such as on busy roundabouts, junctions or bus lanes, or where the road would be too narrowed by cycle lanes and cause unacceptable delays to traffic."  </p> <p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/14/general-election-cyclist-pledges" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/apr/14/general-election-cyclist-pledges</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5633 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:03:49 +0000 Arellcat 5633@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Kim: I am, thank you. My lexicographical and grammatical knowledge is quite robust, notwithstanding the ironic omission of <em>loses</em> in my earlier post. I presumed you meant <em>heretic</em> but I didn't want to say. :-D</p> <p>I used <em>notion</em> in an attempt to convey the (somewhat frustrating) reluctance to consider cycle training of people who feel that they already have more than adequate fitness and road awareness from driving a car, and who promptly pootle themselves around roundabouts at 5mph. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5630 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:43:50 +0000 Kim 5630@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Damn spell checker of course I meant to write Heretic, oh the joys of being dyslexic.</p> <p>I am sure that Arellcat is highly talented really ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5627 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:47:26 +0000 SRD 5627@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kim: '<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieratic">Hieratic</a>' : Hieratic is a cursive writing system used in pharaonic Egypt and Nubia that developed alongside the hieroglyphic system,[1] to which it is intimately related. It was primarily written in ink with a reed brush on papyrus, allowing scribes to write quickly without resorting to the time-consuming hieroglyphs. The word hieratic derives from the Greek phrase γράμματα ἱερατικά (grammata hieratika; literally "priestly writing"), which was first used by Saint Clement of Alexandria in the second century AD,[2] as at that time hieratic was used only for religious texts, as had been the case for the previous thousand years.</p> <p>Sorry! Couldn't resist. This one is just too funny :) I bet Arellcat didn't know she had such language skills!!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5626 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:33:32 +0000 chdot 5626@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>More manifesto analysis by Carlton Reid -</p> <p>"Labour and Tories wimp out on cycling; UKIP doesn’t</p> <p>Let me put something on record. I wouldn’t vote for a political party that promised to be the bees knees for cycling. I might be a bike geek but I have wider interests than just cycling."</p> <p><a href="http://quickrelease.tv/?p=1208" rel="nofollow">http://quickrelease.tv/?p=1208</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5621 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:06:39 +0000 Kim 5621@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Arellcat "... notion of road skills training leading to more confident cyclists, and thus more cyclists. " Hieratic, burn the witch ;-)</p> <p>No, you are right, it is not high on the radar because they don't know it is there, offer people training and support, and they are more interested in taking it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5619 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:44:55 +0000 Arellcat 5619@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On the LibDem's proposed UKIB - alarm bells rang in my head on reading the words <em>private finance</em>. So a national or local Government isn't willing or able to fund some piece of infrastructure, we ask the private sector to pay for it instead. Except that as we've seen with the RIE, the moment the Gov loses ownership of land and access routes, it also ownership for making improvements to anything ill-designed or ill-maintained.</p> <p>I've seen enough travel plans that contain wonderful, aspirational phrases as <em>to promote more vigorously...</em> to know that it neatly excuses an organisation from actually doing anything material at all.</p> <p>My experience is that people cycle mainly because it saves them money, and it helps improve their health. A lower environmental impact is surprisingly low on the radar, as is the notion of road skills training leading to more confident cyclists, and thus more cyclists. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5616 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:05:02 +0000 Dave 5616@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nobody wants safer routes to be built, we'd rather have legislative change to make all the existing roads safe, just like that.</p> <p>Pigs again! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5615 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:04:50 +0000 chdot 5615@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Shame they didn't read my Manifesto"</p> <p>At least you have influential fans. </p> <p>@carltonreid Good manifesto for 'active travel' by @kim_harding </p> <p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/yjyuf45 " rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yjyuf45 </a></p> <p>Includes 'strict liability'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5614 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:03:30 +0000 Kim 5614@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It is a bit thin, "Include the promotion of safer cycling and pedestrian routes in all local transport plans." doesn't mean much, more of a missed opportunity. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5611 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:06:20 +0000 chdot 5611@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wed - LibDem</p> <p>"Include the promotion of safer cycling and pedestrian routes in all local transport plans."</p> <p>"To help the transition to a green economy over the longer-term, we will set up a United Kingdom Infrastructure Bank (UKIB) to attract private finance – essential to delivering the much-needed expansion of Britain’s transport and energy infrastructure when public finances are tight."</p> <p>"We will invest in public transport and cut rail fares"</p> <p>"public transport you can rely on</p> <p>Britain needs a well-run, efficient transport system. Public transport is an important part of a fair society and the best way to cut carbon emissions from transport without trying to limit people’s opportunities to travel."</p> <p><a href="http://network.libdems.org.uk/manifesto2010/libdem_manifesto_2010.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://network.libdems.org.uk/manifesto2010/libdem_manifesto_2010.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5551 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:06:45 +0000 Kim 5551@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Do the loony right seriously expect to get elected?? With a wee bit of luck they will spilt the vote and let someone with a wee bit of sense in. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5521 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:25:17 +0000 chdot 5521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Support responsible pedal cycling but have zero tolerance on dangerous practices such as running red lights. We will consult on proposals for cyclists to display a cheap 'Cycledisc' to deter theft and give 3rd party insurance for car damage."</p> <p><a href="http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies/1430-transport-ukip-policy" rel="nofollow">http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies/1430-transport-ukip-policy</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5511 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:36:39 +0000 spytfyre 5511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/tories-publish-first-ever-hard%11back-edition-of-the-daily-mail-201004132634/">http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/tories-publish-first-ever-hard%11back-edition-of-the-daily-mail-201004132634/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5509 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:33:22 +0000 chdot 5509@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Shame they didn't read my Manifesto suggestions"</p> <p>They did, but your proposals are too sensible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5504 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:24:55 +0000 Kim 5504@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Shame they didn't read my <a href="http://kimharding.net/blog/?p=918">Manifesto suggestions</a> things that would really make a difference and some of them wouldn't even cost money. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=651#post-5502 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:23:55 +0000 LaidBack 5502@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>We will grant longer, more flexible rail franchises...</em></p> <p>First Groups extended ScotRail franchise was a sign of this in action (a SG decision I think?). Some have misgivings... </p>