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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution</title>
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<title>recombodna on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Hrm. Demerit one point from Mr. Previous Occupant, since the hooks don't really thread into the clamps that well.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Looks to my trained eye that he's used wood screw type hooks into ducting clamps. While that may &#34;work&#34; it'll never fit properly.
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<title>fimm on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Ah, I see now. That is well beyond my ability to build...&#60;br /&#62;
I might still take one of Roibeard's poles off his hands, to clutter up my flat..
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<title>Uberuce on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Re: supporting wall problem. I don't know if it's visible in the photos, but while the frame is attached to the plaster for extra lateral stability, as far as load-bearing goes it's an independent structure. The vertical load is taken by the four legs.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Even the lateral bolts are more about perfectionism - the thing can't go anywahere since it's snug against the walls, but the brackets stop any wee shoogling.
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<title>fimm on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Roibeard&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;em&#62;But fimm, you missed the &#34;free to a good home&#34; bit... and you'd be helping to free up one of my corners!&#60;/em&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Aargh, I did, this is true. Further investigation of the storage area reveals that the funny wall shape problem might not be as bad as I first thought... though a solution would still be needed. I am tempted but I am still thinking about it.
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<title>Uberuce on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 20:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@Baldcyclist: that's a standalone clock balanced on the top. The other two dials are barometer and thermometer, but I suspect they don;'t work.
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<title>Roibeard on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 15:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;@fimm - &#60;em&#62;...means I'd be buying more stuff to sit in a corner and not be used.&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But fimm, you missed the &#34;free to a good home&#34; bit... and you'd be helping to free up one of my corners!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Must stick them up on the swap shop thread on the off chance that inspiration might strike others...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Robert
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<title>fimm on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 14:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;...should be strong enough for a couple of lightweight bikes, with appropriate screws/fixings...&#60;/em&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
4 lightweight bikes + 2 heavy ones...? ;-)&#60;br /&#62;
To be honest, the effort required to move the overladen bookshelves that currently occupy part of the only space I could really put this, plus the complcation that one end is onto a wall that isn't at right angles to the other one, and is an interior wall which probably means it won't support anything, means I'd be buying more stuff to sit in a corner and not be used. But thank you for the offer.
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<title>Roibeard on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 13:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'd have gone for S-shaped hooks (yep, like meat hooks...)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I do have rails available free to a good home - I think the specs are 25mm, steel, white plastic coating.  Length is probably 1.2m.  And supports, mid and end.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.screwfix.com/c/ironmongery-security/wardrobe-accessories/cat840252&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.screwfix.com/c/ironmongery-security/wardrobe-accessories/cat840252&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It was cheaper to get a pack of 4, than buy one...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They've taken quite a weight of dive kit, hanging over the bath, so should be strong enough for a couple of lightweight bikes, with appropriate screws/fixings.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;PM me if you fancy a set (rail, mid &#38;amp; two end supports).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Robert
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<title>crowriver on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 13:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;I'm picturing a vast cave with dim lighting, dry ice drifting across the floor and unsettling large shapes suspended in the gloom.&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now we know why he was in the gym at HMP Shotts.
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<title>wingpig on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 13:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.parktool.com/product/storage-hook-machine-thread-450&#34;&#62;Ahahaha&#60;/a&#62;.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hooks with appropriate threads are available.
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<title>wingpig on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.wtlynn.co.uk/products/epc3337_2-1275-80mm_pipe_clamps-insulated_5pack.php&#34;&#62;Aha&#60;/a&#62;!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Insulated pipe clamp is your AOL keyword.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;http://www.wtlynn.co.uk/_images/_images/l/2793-epc3337_2-1275-80mm_pipe_clamps-insulated_5pack.jpg&#34;&#62;
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<title>steveo on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That t-joint towards the bottom left would be perfect as long as you were happy with a max number bikes you wanted to hang up. Just need to secure the hook inside the pointing down section.
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<title>Darkerside on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Work (well, the MoD in general) blocks Flickr, so I'm trying to imagine the above without the benefit of pictures.  All was fine until the abattoir mention, and now I'm picturing a vast cave with dim lighting, dry ice drifting across the floor and unsettling large shapes suspended in the gloom.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Uberuce, you monster...
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<title>crowriver on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Unabashed scaffolding fittings pr0n below. Imagine the posibilities for bicycle hanging nirvana with this lot!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/346553531/scaffolding_fittings.jpg&#34;&#62;
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<title>wingpig on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hmm. Packing the inside of the thread on the clamp with something before screwing the hook in would securify it a bit. Tapping a hole in the side of the sleeve and adding a retention screw/bolt would securify it a bit more.
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<title>crowriver on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Some kind of scaffolding link bracket, perhaps? Hex nut thingy probably supposed to take a grub screw to stop scaffy poles sliding about dangerously.
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<title>Uberuce on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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&#60;p&#62;Wish, command, etc. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I assume the rail is aluminium, since it's not magnetic.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hrm. Demerit one point from Mr. Previous Occupant, since the hooks don't really thread into the clamps that well. Well enough, it seems, but not as nicely as I'd like. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I had a poke at them and the receiving nut thing seems to be integral to the clamp on the underside. It resisted as much force as I was willing to give, anyway.
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<title>amir on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think double ended hooks can be found fairly easily.
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<title>wingpig on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 12:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;A hook ending in a bolt with the same thread pitch as the screw of a Jubilee clip would work nicely...
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<title>steveo on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Not sure wingpig, I'll have to check in the diy sheds this evening when i'm out that way any way. Would a couple of p-clips take the weight of a bike? Uberuce we need a bigger picture of the rail/hook interface. ;)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Crowriver, its definitely a round tube , whether its just mild steel rod or a re-purposed rail I'm not sure.
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'm more interested in the dial things on top of your computer.&#60;br /&#62;
Either they are turbo boost cpu charge dials, or speed dials which allow multi player Mavis Teaches Typing?
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<title>crowriver on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;So it probably is not a wardrobe rail, more like the kind of rail they use in factories or abattoirs to keep the production line running smoothly?
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<title>wingpig on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Can you get bolt-ended rubberised hooks rather than self-tapping-screw-ended? Bolt-ended-rubberised-book plus P-clip plus bolt would work. If not, a long enough sleeve bolt ought to get enough bite on a screw to hang a bike from it without an episode of the heebies.
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<title>steveo on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That would work, the beauty of uberuces predecessors solution is that the hooks slide on the rails.
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;em&#62;&#34;where i'm scratching my head...&#34;&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Inelegant but quick solution would be to stick as fat as possible a dowel inside the rail to screw the hooks into to avoid having to finely-tune the size of the holes in the rail through which the screw ends of the hooks go.
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<title>crowriver on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yeah, that's what I was thinking: it's basically a built in wardrobe adapted for bikes.
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I already had your clever storage facility squirrelled away in the diy repository part of my brain, its a very clever idea. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Fimm, it should be fairly straight forward... A wardrobe rail will take a fair amount of weight, my kilt weighs more than my bikes, if you were worried you could get some mild steel in the same dimensions from the web. The brackets at either end are (i think) the standard brackets one uses to fit said rail and it looks super reinforced in the middle with the strut. Its those hooks that might be hard to source. Coated hooks can be bought cheaply the clever bit is connecting it to the rail which is where i'm scratching my head...
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Pretty smart design from Mr Previous Occupant. &#60;/em&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
Piffle. I was hoping for tips from your good self on how to build my own... :o)
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<title>Uberuce on "N+1 Causes Man Cave Evolution"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 08:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Second guess is correct, Fimm. There's all kinds of guff stored above it. Pretty smart design from Mr Previous Occupant.
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 08:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Clearly room for more ...
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