http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Mikael's about more than just the clothes en Sun, 31 May 2026 23:10:45 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-73003 Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:42:51 +0000 SRD 73003@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@anth - your first para and most of the text of your post was about the '(self-)promotion', and that's what we took up. Maybe for once we stayed on topic. </p> <p>You seem to be arguing that the end justifies the means. I tend not to agree. And westerners doing 'projects' in developing countries is something I know a little about.</p> <p>(a fun take on 'celebrity' and 'africa': <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB0Hy-SQf4w">see africa diffewrently - felicity kendal</a>) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72983 Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:18:24 +0000 Tom 72983@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>He's not actually got a role in the project as far as I can see. He made the initial suggestion and visits from time to time. Though he describes it as "our" project it looks like Sao Paulo's Education Secretariat and Parada Vital's project. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72981 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:37:44 +0000 gembo 72981@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nobody is perfect some people have impact despite themselves etc but we can thank our lucky stars that we're not as smart as we like to think we are </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72979 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:07:55 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 72979@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Like I said, "<em>I'm sure many will still find fault</em>" (nice to know I can be so right about many things, didn't realise so many would completely ignore the fact he's part of a project to get <em><strong>four thousand six hundred</strong></em> kids onto bikes in a single city though... :P ) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72970 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:16:32 +0000 SRD 72970@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I find the focus on clothes rather superficial (and paradoxically consumerist). the bigger point about cycling as normal life is of course spot on. </p> <p>it just reminds me of julian assange and too many 'pop-stars' -- extreme behaviour/attitudes so as to court attention, and generate more income. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72967 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:43:55 +0000 sallyhinch 72967@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have to say that without Copenhagen Cycle Chic I might still be insisting that all we needed was to man up and take the lane &amp; never have seen the light about decent cycle infrastructure. Once I'd got onto that I discovered David Hembrow's blog &amp; many others which are more serious and 'worthy' but the man is a marketing genius and I'm grateful to him for making me realise it wasn't that I was cycling all wrong, it's that cycling in this country was all wrong. Five years later I find myself involved in POP &amp; the Cycling Embassy and I do to a certain extent owe it to him... So I forgive him his other foibles; </p> <p>tbh there are very few people in the world of cycle campaigning (myself included, the rest of POP of course excluded) who are entirely well-rounded, balanced or completely sane individuals, tho we might have been when we started. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72966 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:04:20 +0000 Roibeard 72966@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.ted.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/</a></p> <p><em>TED is a nonprofit devoted to Ideas Worth Spreading. It started out (in 1984) as a conference bringing together people from three worlds: Technology, Entertainment, Design. Since then its scope has become ever broader. </em></p> <p>A place to loose quite a few hours, assuming speedy enough broadband...</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72963 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:27:18 +0000 Min 72963@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What's a TED talk?</p> <p>I'm not sure how slagging off UK cyclists leads to building bike in Brazil but cool sounding project anyway. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72961 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:12:17 +0000 Tom 72961@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm, good work but his is the only TED talk I've had to turn off half way through. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72959 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:56:00 +0000 SRD 72959@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>shrill &amp; abrasive &amp; attention-seeking = doesn't do it for me. even with use of 'celebrity' to promote 'charity/good works'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72941 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:03:56 +0000 DaveC 72941@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeh I ditched him on Twitter months ago. He was beggining to get right on my nerves. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72937 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:37:16 +0000 Stepdoh 72937@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Guess you don't get traction without a bit of friction. Fantastic project though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72926 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:17:25 +0000 steveo 72926@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's pretty cool and good work, shame he feel he has to be so abrasive to achieve this. </p> <p>Maybe when I move I'll have some space to grow a load of bamboo and make my own bamboo bike. The idea of growing my own bike frame appeals on many levels. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6878#post-72920 Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:46:43 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 72920@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Okay, so I'm as happy as anyone to poke a bit of fun at Copenhagenize, and I do have to question his tactics sometimes, although its all based around promotion so that he can get into a position to do something like this.</p> <p>I'm sure many will still find fault. But 4,600 publicly funded bikes, for kids to ride to school in convoys. <em>This</em> is astonishingly good work.</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7313255456/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7313255456_9c57412b55.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7313255456/">Untitled</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/blackpuddinonnabike/">blackpuddinonnabike</a>, on Flickr </p>