http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: How to get your child cycling: Spokes en Wed, 13 May 2026 03:45:37 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-76049 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:37:40 +0000 Instography 76049@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presenting both sides of an argument is only one element of balance. There's also the aspect of balance that involves using the data available honestly, not simply cherry-picking the data that supports the case they want to make and ignoring the rest. Mirroring pro-helmet sites is precisely its problem. You can be partisan and balanced. They are just partisan. They are the Richard Dawkins of helmets - so imbalanced that they appear unbalanced and end up alienating even those who agree with their basic position. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-76048 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:35:40 +0000 chdot 76048@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I wouldn't be surprised if they make as much margin on the helmet as the bike."</p> <p>I wouldn't be surprised if they make TWICE as much margin on the helmet as the bike.</p> <p>Complete bikes have relatively low margins - shops try to make it up by selling 'accessories'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-76047 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:29:04 +0000 Dave 76047@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Extremely lucrative in fact. I wouldn't be surprised if they make as much margin on the helmet as the bike. Helmets don't tend to last as long either, so good repeat custom.</p> <p>I saw a dad taking his two kids to school this morning by bike, all three just wearing normal clothes, not battle dress. Extremely refreshing. :)</p> <p><em>Indeed, nicely balanced in fact.</p> <p>Unlike cyclehelmets.org </em></p> <p>Seems like an unrealistic expectation that a website set up to disseminate information that runs counter to received wisdom should, somehow, simultaneously support received wisdom? </p> <p>To me, the value of cyclehelmets.org is precisely that it is a mirror to pro-helmet sites and gives the opposing view. Nobody is struggling to find pro-helmet viewpoints after all. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-76008 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:45:15 +0000 wee folding bike 76008@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Whereas almost every other web page on cycling has everybody be hatted. </p> <p>I can understand it with Halfrauds etc because it's a useful secondary purchase. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75969 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:12:45 +0000 alibali 75969@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Doesn't seem too strident.</em></p> <p>Indeed, nicely balanced in fact.</p> <p>Unlike cyclehelmets.org </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75952 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:16:00 +0000 SRD 75952@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There were lots of girls on bikes in the first Pop photo shoot! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75949 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:08:28 +0000 wee folding bike 75949@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>7 photos of people in plastic hats.</p> <p>5 photos of people with no hat.</p> <p>Two sets of arms. No insulating material visible.</p> <p>Doesn't seem too strident. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75946 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:34:18 +0000 alibali 75946@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cyclehelmets.org seems to push a very clear line on helemts and, from what I've seen recently it's view is closely aligned to Spokes'.</p> <p>Cyclehelmets strident approach is likely to put off potential cyclists IMO and is therefore counter-productive. Spokes beware.</p> <p>Still, Spokes did use a photo of my daughter in their latest newsletter and she managed to smuggle a helmet past the PPE stazi. Proud, very proud. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75932 Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:15:17 +0000 Instography 75932@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I never knew it was so complicated. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75930 Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:06:00 +0000 crowriver 75930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Still quite a useful handout though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75920 Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:19:01 +0000 SRD 75920@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also not thrilled by another link to 'www.cyclehelmets.org'. Surely a link to Spokes' own factsheet would be better? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7291#post-75919 Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:15:36 +0000 SRD 75919@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spokes has created another excellent fact sheet: <a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/P4062-Spokes-Parents-Factsheet-PRF4.pdf">How to get your child cycling</a></p> <p>Look pretty good, but I wish there were more pictures of girls (and no, I'm not just saying that 'cause they didn't use my picture of my girl!) </p>