http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Cycle serious injuries soar by 16% in one year" en Mon, 18 May 2026 14:01:30 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7360#post-76365 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:55:22 +0000 Instography 76365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spokes' count is highly localised even within Edinburgh. The counting might be fine for those times and locations but you can't generalise beyond those times and locations. It doesn't indicate growth anywhere beyond those times and locations (and nor does it claim to). </p> <p>The 'exposure' side comes from a combination of data from automatic traffic counters and about 10,000 manual traffic counts conducted every year by DfT. There's plenty of technical details <a href="http://www.dft.gov.uk/statistics/series/traffic/">here</a>. It's produced at a national level because even with that large number of counts, it won't disaggregate to local areas with any precision. So just as the Spokes data doesn't reliably factor up, the DfT data doesn't reliably factor down. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7360#post-76360 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:24:50 +0000 Smudge 76360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>8% increase since 2006 doesn't match my sample of 1 observations, not by a long way! Did they do their (cycle)traffic count on the West Approach road?!? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7360#post-76354 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:08:19 +0000 crowriver 76354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On the positive side, cyclists represent more vehicle kilometres overall than bus and coach users!</p> <p>Yet somehow the Scottish government is investing more in buses than in cycling... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7360#post-76341 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:16:57 +0000 Dave 76341@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They include two bits of quite relevant information, but I'm suspicious of the 'exposure' side of the stats. Officially cycling is only up 8.8% since I started riding in 2006, whereas if you look at Spokes counts, you can see a 34% increase in the same period. That means the change *in risk* may be overstated by almost 4x.</p> <p>Anyone know how they establish the exact distance cycled by all of the country's cyclists?</p> <p>The other obvious point is that relative to pedestrians, our risk of injury increased by just 2%, which is hardly anything. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7360#post-76336 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:01:47 +0000 Instography 76336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>14% when you take account of the growth in cycling between the two years.</p> <p>18% higher than the 2005-09 average, again taking account of the growth in cycling.</p> <p>In Scotland, 13% increase since 2010 (can't find the figures to take account of growth in cycling) and 16% increase on 2004-08 average.</p> <p>The interesting thing about the Scottish data is a Byzantine spreadsheet where they are calculating progress towards the Government's casualty reduction targets. What's interesting is that they are ahead of target on each of them but none of them are mode specific. On the basis that what gets measured gets done, the campaigning point would be to urge them to set mode-specific casualty reduction targets. Principally for pedestrians and cyclists. It's too easy to meet the overall targets by making driving safer. But making drivers less likely to get killed or seriously injured is making life more dangerous for everyone around them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7360#post-76310 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:44:27 +0000 chdot 76310@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> CTC ‏@CTC_Cyclists</p> <p>Cycle serious injuries soar by 16% in one year - Govt casualties data out today. </p> <p>CTC's comment: <a href="http://beta.ctc.org.uk/news/2012-06-28/cycle-casualties-increase-sharply-in-2011" rel="nofollow">http://beta.ctc.org.uk/news/2012-06-28/cycle-casualties-increase-sharply-in-2011</a></p> <p>" </p>