http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Today's rubbish canal cycling en Wed, 13 May 2026 01:45:27 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290371 Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:44:55 +0000 I were right about that saddle 290371@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Greenroofer</p> <p>Is that a feature you selected or the device's default? Sounds awful.</p> <p>@jdanielp</p> <p>Probably a <a href="https://www.thehornit.com/the-hornit-db140-new">Horn-It. </a> Not suitable for shared spaces like a melodious oversize ding-donger. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290368 Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:31:23 +0000 amir 290368@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Never had it before."<br /> I've had it once on the cobbles (Dalkeith Palace) and once on a potholed piece of road.<br /> Shows the technology is there for mapping surface quality of roads! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290365 Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:19:20 +0000 jdanielp 290365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Greenroofer sounds like an unfortunate false positive.</p> <p>Yesterday evening, I found myself cycling behind someone who had a loud and rather high-pitched electronic bird-song style siren, which they were using as a bell in very short, staccato bursts. This seemed to be quite effective at making other path users aware of our presence, but it appeared to be startling many of them in the process... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290292 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:34:16 +0000 Greenroofer 290292@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Me coming over the Slateford aqueduct this evening. My Garmin clearly decided that the vibration of the cobbles combined with the sudden stop-start riding meant there had been an incident. It started sounding a loud siren that I initially thought was a fire engine until I realised it was me. I spent a fruitless and frantic minute trying to get it stop phoning and texting my emergency contacts. I then had to ring them to call off the search and rescue teams.</p> <p>Never had it before. Quite annoying in those circumstances. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290240 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:24:45 +0000 wingpig 290240@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>People who <em>appear and behave like</em> students are materialising in supemarkets and on bicycles around Abbeyhill and the slightly newer student shoeboxes on Bothwell Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290238 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:19:04 +0000 gembo 290238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Meadows stowed with studentage</p> <p>Posh Student: Why are you peeping [seriously that is what they said] your bell at nothing</p> <p>Gembo:[silent just kept cycling but thought] Because you are all walking on the cycle lane you people who hopefully one day won't be idiots.</p> <p>I also held my counsel today when attacked by long haired daschund called Hugo.</p> <p>Owner out running with larger well behaved mutt and wee But very yappy Hugo both off lead.. Hugo was nearly booted. Again I showed restraint.</p> <p>I believe dogs whose names end in an eeee sound or have an eeee sound in their names - respond better to commands, e.g. to Heeeeel. I respectfully suggest Hugo has his name changed to Hughie. I believe dogs can hear an eeeeee sound. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290212 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:10:40 +0000 jdanielp 290212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Heriot-Watt freshers are here already. It felt like there were more people cycling west on the towpath this morning than usual, although I was running a little earlier than my normal schedule despite detouring at the lift bridge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290202 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 09:06:58 +0000 steveo 290202@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>yesterday the students start returning? Is that richt?</em></p> <p>I used to start after the September weekend though the traveling students may come back a bit earlier. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290197 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 08:28:07 +0000 Frenchy 290197@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>UoE freshers week is next week. Other universities may differ. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290192 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 07:16:32 +0000 gembo 290192@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Now, if I am remembering correctly, the festival ends (last Monday), then there is a week of rest and then yesterday the students start returning? Is that richt? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290191 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 06:52:11 +0000 wingpig 290191@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"...and failed to predict..."</em></blockquote></p> <p>A problem shared by turnips on the canal, NEPN, roads and everywhere. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290188 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 23:02:06 +0000 Snowy 290188@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As I tinged my bell (don't judge me) and pulled out to overtake a pedestrian, disaster was narrowly avoid by a cursory shoulder check, whereby I was surprised to find another rider in the space I was pulling into. He had failed to make any noise to indicate his presence, and failed to predict that he was trying to sneak past someone who was obviously about to overtake a pedestrian... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290163 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 12:42:24 +0000 piosad 290163@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>At the very least, that seems like sensible self-preservation!</em></p> <p>One would think so!.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290160 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 11:57:20 +0000 chdot 290160@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“At the very least, if you definitely know that someone is coming, you slow down and don't just steam ahead.”</p> <p>At the very least, that seems like sensible self-preservation!</p> <p>Some people are genuinely hard of hearing, but I suspect that not many are also speedy Canal users. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290158 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 11:43:06 +0000 piosad 290158@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My interpretation of canal bell etiquette is 'you ring the bell to let the other side know you're here; if you are approaching a blind bridge with a narrow path and you hear a bell, you wait for however many people have rung to come through'. At the very least, if you definitely know that someone is coming, you slow down and don't just steam ahead. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290156 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 11:26:34 +0000 fimm 290156@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thing is, as discussed <em>ad infinitum</em> on here, bells don't fix it either. Slowing down, showing consideration, thinking about other towpath users, are the behaviours required.</p> <p>What did you expect the people who heard your bell to do, piosad? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290153 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:55:26 +0000 piosad 290153@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>To be fair the previous time I saw the polis on the canal (i.e. not last week's speed gun fiasco) that was exactly what they were doing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290150 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 10:33:30 +0000 Trixie 290150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's a lot of rubbish to encounter in one slippery morning, @piosad. And exactly why, if the polis want to loiter on the towpath in future, I'd rather they gave out bell advice (and maybe bells?) than nonsense speed advice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-290147 Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:58:00 +0000 piosad 290147@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Of the eight cyclists I met across two bridges on the school run today (Harrison Road and Ashley Terrace), the counts were as follows: actually ringing the bell - one; ignoring my bell and steaming through with a ring of their own - one; ignoring my bell and steaming through silently - three; muttering something less than friendly while negotiating me leaning against the wall with the tagalong, after they ignored my bell - one. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-289597 Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:28:07 +0000 gembo 289597@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@LivD that is funny. The bike cops I met had bike yes but thee was also a van the other side of the bridge. Whatever happened to Quentin who used to chat to us? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-289596 Sat, 25 Aug 2018 06:19:06 +0000 LivM 289596@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/madmudman/status/1033068456663543810?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/madmudman/status/1033068456663543810?s=21</a><br /> I think this is the best response<br /> “How can these cops be taken seriously? I mean that copper has the arms of his sunnies under his helmet straps.....FFS man Rule #37 #velominati How can he talk to other cyclists when he’s guilty of breaking fundamental rules? http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-289593 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:31:43 +0000 jdanielp 289593@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm mildly disappointed to be missing the towpath action but I'm enjoying holidaying at last. I'm with the stick to the left of the path and overtake on the right rules. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-289592 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 20:01:12 +0000 gembo 289592@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, yes the calibration is ultra sensitive. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=5#post-289591 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 19:19:01 +0000 chdot 289591@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Such understanding of the mechanics and fine human-handed control of braking in an unpredictable environment. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=4#post-289589 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 19:07:36 +0000 gembo 289589@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Backing up the thread a bit to The Polis. I think he meant that if you were cycling At 15 mph and encountered a dog or a child or some such erratic specimen you could brake and avoid but if you were up at 18 mph or 20mph then you would struggle to avoid conflict. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=4#post-289585 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:47:54 +0000 Greenroofer 289585@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd wager not. I'd say most people make a risk-based decision about riding across the aqueduct, rather than being directed by the sign. All the sign does is generate conflict. If the sign said. "<em>Cyclists MUST give priority to pedestrians. Keep left. Ride across at your own risk</em>" it wouldn't generate anything like as much conflict. Scottish Canals have never responded to my question about whether the sign had any force in law.</p> <p>As a regular towpath commuter I ride across at commuting times, as do the vast majority of other riders. On a sunny Sunday afternoon I'd walk across, as do the vast majority of other riders.</p> <p>As to the general question of keep left, I am certain that when the Council were considering the new signs about courteous behaviour for shared-use paths that appeared recently, one of the options was sign saying 'Travel on the left, pass on the right', aimed at <em>all</em> path users. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=4#post-289583 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:19:05 +0000 toomanybikes 289583@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What would the rate of dismounting over the aquaduct be with no signs? Id wager far lower. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=4#post-289582 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:15:45 +0000 Ed1 289582@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The cyclist dismount signs are often ignored would keep left be any more successful. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=4#post-289581 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:06:44 +0000 toomanybikes 289581@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't think you can instigate a perfectly observed system, but I do think "keep dogs on Leads" and "keep left" signs would go a long way to reducing conflict. Not sure what signs would help for cyclists behaviour "use that bell" and "overtake with care" maybe? The latter is uselessly vague though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7422&page=4#post-289571 Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:03:43 +0000 neddie 289571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Literally right next to where the officers are standing, there is a car parked on the pavement, close to a hedge. It almost certainly looks like a wheelchair nor double child buggy would get past without walking on to the road:</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/edd1e_h/status/1032990343971700736" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/edd1e_h/status/1032990343971700736</a></p> <p>But hey ho, let's ignore everyday motoring "taking all the space"...</p> <p><em>When will @EdinPolSW "encourage" drivers not to park on the pavements (right next to where they are standing)? HOW MUCH PAVEMENT BLOCKING IS TOO MUCH BLOCKING? #sharethespace (not when it's a pavement)</em> </p>