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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: KOM! http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: KOM! en Mon, 18 May 2026 14:01:41 +0000 DaveC on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77871 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:33:55 +0000 DaveC 77871@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I cycled the Cramond prom again this eve and missed Tuesdays time by 5 blumin seconds! Darn cars at Granton round about meant I failed to match/beat my best time. Wind today and Tuesday was minimal but in my favour as it was NE. amir on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77868 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:33:30 +0000 amir 77868@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Smudge, I am sure I read that there is a compatibility issue with Cyanogenmod for Strava steveo on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77866 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:19:25 +0000 steveo 77866@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Hehe, I actually laughed out loud at that one! kaputnik on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77863 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:15:03 +0000 kaputnik 77863@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaputniq/7557816334/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7125/7557816334_5e01f757a6.jpg"></a> Le Real King of the Mountains Kenny on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77861 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:51:34 +0000 Kenny 77861@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Altitude based on GPS readings when crossing the Forth Road Bridge tend to be crazy, from my experience. Using a barometric altimeter is much more reliable. DaveC on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77816 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:17:31 +0000 DaveC 77816@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Never had a problem with Strava, and I like tha fact it eats my phones battery less than other mapping apps. cb on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77808 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:28:46 +0000 cb 77808@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Bhachgen : "So it has somehow kept recording despite the phone crash" Yes, it work's that way for me too. Steveo : "What phone/os are you running?" HTC Desire running CyanogenMod 7.1 Bhachgen on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77807 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:25:03 +0000 Bhachgen 77807@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Anyone else find that Strava is hugely flakey on Android? It usually only manages to record around 3km before crashing and causing the phone to reboot. It's done that to me a couple of times but generally works absolutely fine. On a couple of other occasions the phone has crashed and reooted at some point during the ride. I've come home to find Strava not running, but the next time I've opened the app it's asked me if I want to keep my unsaved data! So it has somehow kept recording despite the phone crash. Don't ask me how that works... Smudge on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77806 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:20:09 +0000 Smudge 77806@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Cheers B, I'll maybe have a play sometime then and see if I can get it to play, satmap can def produce gpx files, not sure about the foretrex :-) Arellcat on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77804 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:08:02 +0000 Arellcat 77804@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Smudge, Strava's website implies that most GPSes aren't supported. If your Foretrex can generate a GPX file on your computer, you can use Strava. It's a bit of a faff for me, because the Garmin Communicator plugin doesn't work properly on my computer, but I use my 60CSx with Strava quite happily. PS on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77803 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:07:01 +0000 PS 77803@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Garmins' barometric altimeters can give some pretty odd results if the wind's up. On a few occasions I've been surprised to find myself cycling up a 40% hill when the road looked to me to be perfectly flat. One hell of a false flat. steveo on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77800 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:55:59 +0000 steveo 77800@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Nope, works fine for me. I've never had it kill the phone in fact i'm not sure its crashed on me at all. What phone/os are you running? cb on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77797 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:40:00 +0000 cb 77797@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Anyone else find that Strava is hugely flakey on Android? It usually only manages to record around 3km before crashing and causing the phone to reboot. Smudge on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77796 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:34:25 +0000 Smudge 77796@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I have a blackberry....! (Clearly Strava's failing(s) not mine lol) DaveC on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77795 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:23:07 +0000 DaveC 77795@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Smudge, I use my Android phone. Smudge on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77793 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:20:53 +0000 Smudge 77793@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ On finally having a look at the Strava site it seems it doesn't take uploads from foretrex, just forerunner, and satmap isn't listed either :-/ So AHMNOPLAYIN'! (stomps off in the huff) ;-) CalumX on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77775 Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:17:29 +0000 CalumX 77775@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I believe Strava uses your bariometric data if it has it - but if there isnt any data, it uses a database based on GPS location (and other peoples data for the same route). Several people have said on forums that Strava's data may be more accurate than the bariometric data, because its crowd-sourced from many different users. However, I dont think that's true (yet): <a href="https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/20965883-elevation-correction-for-your-activity" rel="nofollow">https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/20965883-elevation-correction-for-your-activity</a> Kenny on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77767 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:51:41 +0000 Kenny 77767@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Does strava rely on GPS for altitude data? If so it's always going to be a largely wrong approximation for anything but large climbs as a result of innacuracies of trying to determine your vertical position using triangulation Both of my Garmins (Edge 800, Forerunner 910xt) have barometric altimeters, which I am led to believe is much more accurate than determining your altitude from GPS. Dave on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77748 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:38:37 +0000 Dave 77748@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Aye, respect for that - seriously rapid. Please tell me you had a belting easterly behind you? ;-) DaveC on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77715 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:07:14 +0000 DaveC 77715@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://app.strava.com/rides/13024913#230509969">Aherm.... [cough]</a> ... wonders off to find his own Trumpet!! @Dave Kudos!!!! Dave on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77648 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:54:05 +0000 Dave 77648@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Yep, my power estimate is often lower than people below me, I assume because I'm not quite as chunky as I used to be. As I now have a powertap hub, I guess I'll soon be able to put real figures on Strava, assuming the app is capable of recording it. PS on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77631 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:41:45 +0000 PS 77631@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I think the power data is a calculation Strava does based on speed, altitude gain and your weight. I can only assume that the 700W guy has entered his weight wrong (or is rather heavy - perhaps Chris Hoy in disguise ;o) ). Dave on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77629 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:25:38 +0000 Dave 77629@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Although mine does, I'm not sure that Strava app actually uses it. I think I'd need to upload a proper gpx trace to their website and then create a segment off that. It doesn't really matter since the ground is at a given altitude for everybody at a certain lat/long- the leaderboard is an even playing field, even if we don't know how steep it is ;-) kaputnik on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77602 Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:31:34 +0000 kaputnik 77602@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Does strava rely on GPS for altitude data? If so it's always going to be a largely wrong approximation for anything but large climbs as a result of innacuracies of trying to determine your vertical position using triangulation. Even using topo models wouldn't be that accurate for such short runs, and I doubt most people's phones have a proper barometric altimeter in them like a hillwalking GPS does. cb on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77594 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:54:29 +0000 cb 77594@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Pushed me down to 5th place. Not convinced I could do much better than that. Very impressive. LaidBack on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77593 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:44:49 +0000 LaidBack 77593@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Says it's 7 feet of climbing - second on board used 700watts. 700 watt is pro level with additives.... So you were faster with a third of the energy at 209watt? Someone called Sarah did it with no power... Is Strava accurate or one of these digi-approx things(!)? Know it's just for fun but surely the climb is more than 7 feet. Dave on "KOM!" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7568#post-77587 Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:01:27 +0000 Dave 77587@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ A cautionary note that Lothian buses are now coming down the Mound, doing a u-turn at George St and then going back up the Mound... Since the closure of Broughton St I've been riding through the tunnel at Canonmills and thence up Hanover and the Mound. Until the other day this involved walking across George St as it was only partially open, so today I walked across even though it's no longer a vomit zone of cones, and said bus driver wanted to drive through where I was walking (which was, to be fair to him, where he wanted to drive). We had a wee verbal rummage, after which I took the glorious Strava KOM for climbing the <a href="http://app.strava.com/segments/1637816">first half of the Mound</a>. Talk about motivation :-)