http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Shell en Tue, 21 Apr 2026 11:48:05 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-79528 Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:05:25 +0000 chdot 79528@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Andrew Simms (@AndrewSimms_nef)</p> <p>24/07/2012 10:28</p> <p>Think those #Shell adverts were spoofs? Amazingly, here's the oil company that really did boast it could melt glaciers. pic.twitter.com/vkIHNpGr</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78489 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:11:02 +0000 SRD 78489@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Greenpeace has a long history of ruining local people's incomes in publicity stunts. That's why I don't support them, even if I have very real concerns about climate change and oil dependence 9and thought the spoof adverts were quite funny). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78487 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:05:25 +0000 Morningsider 78487@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmmm - it is disappointing that, rather than sticking it to the man, the Shell protesters in Edinburgh were actually doing damage to the business of local Shell franchise holders. I'm assuming the protesters knew that Shell don't directly operate most Shell branded petrol stations. It's a tough business running a petrol station - just see how many have closed in the last few years if you want evidence of that. It might seem like high jinks, but this is people's livelihood.</p> <p>I'm sure Shell have been up to all sorts of awful stuff, but I don't think this is the way to address that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78471 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:05:37 +0000 kaputnik 78471@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the New Statesman article;</p> <p><em>It may have been done for noble reasons, but that doesn’t change the salient fact that they are manipulating the media by creating a fake scandal and lying about it to get more coverage</em></p> <p>It's hard not to agree with that sentence. I must admit that my internal cynic raised an internal eyebrow slightly when I saw the list of anti-Shell campaigners appearing in the Sheriff court for their "malicious mischiefing" (or whichever vague, trumped-up charge it was) and only 1 came from Edinburgh, with others as far afield as London and South Wales. I suppose it is so much harder to try and campaign against a company like Shell at a local, grass-roots level, but what does bussing in the renta-mob from all over the country really achieve for a campaign?</p> <p>Maybe I'm a bit too "local protests for local people"!? But I find it hard to support and sympathise with the big, well-funded (I think Greenpeace's turnover is about $2bn per annum), corporate perma-campaigning organisations - no matter how honourable their intentions may be, when their methods are every bit as cynical, obfuscating and sometimes disingenuous as the very organisations or causes they are campaigning against.</p> <p><em>With real scandals like this to cover, inventing fake ones isn’t just unnecessary but actually quite crass.<br /> </em>. I also think it plays directly into the hands of Greenpeace (etc.s) detractors, like the New Statesman. Which doesn't help anyone.</p> <p>Humbug moment over. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78466 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:49:40 +0000 Min 78466@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>We'd drill a crippled orphans spine if there was oil in it</p> <p>Studies prove that covering Arctic ice with oil stops it melting</em></p> <p>Love it! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78465 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:49:21 +0000 steveo 78465@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em><a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/sci-tech/2012/07/epic-shell-pr-fail-no-real-villains-here-are-greenpeace" rel="nofollow">http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/sci-tech/2012/07/epic-shell-pr-fail-no-real-villains-here-are-greenpeace</a></em></p> <p>Thats an interesting take on things and probably a fair assessment. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78463 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:47:14 +0000 LaidBack 78463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"You can't run your SUV on cute..." </p> <p>Looks like Shell are now getting into deep water in more ways than one. Of course Cairn in Edinburgh have been drilling in Arctic but looks like they are moving out. They were invited to put their case in the RSGS Geographer magazine but still waiting. </p> <p>Always worth remembering this<br /> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/11/15/frozen-planets-climate-ch_n_1094362.html">BBC Frozen Planet climate change epsiode not shown in USA</a></p> <p>Weather in the USA this year has been more extreme - or as people say... extreme weather is the norm. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78461 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:43:25 +0000 chdot 78461@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/sci-tech/2012/07/epic-shell-pr-fail-no-real-villains-here-are-greenpeace" rel="nofollow">http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/sci-tech/2012/07/epic-shell-pr-fail-no-real-villains-here-are-greenpeace</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78458 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:30:47 +0000 steveo 78458@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah some one on twitter just pointed out me, it really is a trap.<br /> <img src="http://arcticready.com/sites/default/files/styles/ad_preview/public/memes/6b9c3e7239e205f92c922722526a0001_0.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78457 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:25:12 +0000 steveo 78457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Rofl, never invite the internet to "help" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78456 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:24:31 +0000 chdot 78456@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Except that it's by Greenpeace!</p> <p><a href="http://tangerineandblack.com/2012/07/16/putting-the-hell-into-shell" rel="nofollow">http://tangerineandblack.com/2012/07/16/putting-the-hell-into-shell</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7731#post-78454 Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:17:16 +0000 mgj 78454@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone else seen <a href="http://arcticready.com/social/gallery" rel="nofollow">http://arcticready.com/social/gallery</a> yet? Shell web site socail media gone very wrong. Hurry before they remove it, some of the straplines are hilarious. </p>