http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "The Challenges Facing Electric Vehicle Uptake" en Sun, 05 Apr 2026 21:17:09 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=3#post-236513 Tue, 15 Nov 2016 20:50:10 +0000 neddie 236513@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cue lots of people driving at 25mph instead of the 15mph they would have been comfortable with were it not for an annoying noise generator kicking in below 19mph. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-236480 Tue, 15 Nov 2016 13:33:03 +0000 amir 236480@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37986774">US demands electric cars make noise at low speed</a></p> <p>"The safety specification requires car makers to use a two-tone signal similar to that currently emitted by heavy vehicles when they are reversing. "</p> <p>So no end to noise pollution. And people will continue to step out into the road without looking. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-183267 Sat, 14 Mar 2015 15:25:57 +0000 gembo 183267@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spotted farings man's father in Balerno at farmers market today he had come in to the village for his gin. He is a big man, looks like wwII RAF. Wears science goggles for the wind, cannot walk very far at all but has traded his old push bike for an electric and is very pleased with it.</p> <p>It was also tattie day, I should have said. Picked up my salad blues now chitting in the sitooterie.</p> <p>One of the stalls hs invented a potato scone wrap which is basically a tattie scone the Size of a tortilla or I suppose a potato paratha. Another stall was selling tattie doughnuts. The whole thing was tattie filarious Missus.</p> <p>Also a charidee quiz. Here is the best question (in my opinion, though I did set it, but I set others too)</p> <p>Where near Balerno did John Lennon stay the night in 1965? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-183261 Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:40:04 +0000 chdot 183261@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Edinburgh is Scotland’s electric car hotspot, with over 120 electric vehicles operating in the Capital out of a Scottish total of 1100. The city also has the best-used network of charging points, with a survey finding that every single one of the 38 sockets in the city was used at least once over the course of a month last year.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/city-progresses-plan-for-more-electric-car-sockets-1-3718873" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/city-progresses-plan-for-more-electric-car-sockets-1-3718873</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130136 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:16:02 +0000 gibbo 130136@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>I've never owned a car (41 years and counting...)</em></blockquote></p> <p>I've never owned a car, 45 years and counting...</p> <p>I picked 10 years as that's around a car's lifetime. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130122 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:14:31 +0000 fimm 130122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sounds good to me ;-) my bank account details are ..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130112 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:30:12 +0000 cb 130112@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've owned three cars so I owe you each £5000. That can't be right? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130075 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:22:19 +0000 fimm 130075@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've <em>never</em> owned a car (41 years and counting...) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130073 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:18:13 +0000 Kim 130073@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gibbo<br /> Wait your turn, I haven't own a car for 19 year and two weeks (sold the last on 10 October 1994)... ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130069 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:12:40 +0000 gibbo 130069@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>cb - the "£5000 offer" is actually a UK Government grant of £5k offered to anyone wishing to purchase an electric car. </em></blockquote></p> <p>If they'll pay someone £5000 in order to buy an environmentally less-unfriendly vehicle, surely they should pay me £10,000 for not owning <strong>any</strong> kind of car during the last 10 years? </p> <p>Seriously, why does one type of car merit £5000 and a bike + no car at all merits nothing? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130066 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:01:18 +0000 Morningsider 130066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>cb - the "£5000 offer" is actually a UK Government grant of £5k offered to anyone wishing to purchase an electric car. Almost no-one has actually taken up this offer due to concerns about availability of charging infrastructure and (probably more importantly) the unknown second hand re-sale value of an electric car.</p> <p>Arellcat - cycle parking provision was an issue raised by PoP in its response to the consultation draft Scottish Planning Policy:</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/0043/00431587.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/0043/00431587.pdf</a></p> <p>Seriously doubt it will be taken on board though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130055 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:27:58 +0000 Arellcat 130055@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>...and bike parking?</em></p> <p>This is one thing that <strong>really</strong> annoys me. New-build blocks of low-rise flats all have these lovely shrub-bordered courtyards of pastel-brown block paviours for parking twenty or thirty cars.</p> <p>Yet there is never anywhere to park a bike. Perish the thought that someone might own five bikes, but no car. Even the wheelie bins get better parking for crying out loud. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-130052 Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:09:39 +0000 cb 130052@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/free-electric-car-charge-points-offer-in-edinburgh-1-3158034">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/free-electric-car-charge-points-offer-in-edinburgh-1-3158034</a></p> <p>"householders are being urged to get <strong>free</strong> electric car charging points installed in their homes"</p> <p>...</p> <p>"However the green scheme [...] has only seen a handful of people take up the <strong>£5000</strong> offer."</p> <p>Eh?</p> <p>"Transport Scotland wants domestic charge points to be built in all new council homes and funding offered to major developers so charge points are included as a standard fitting in all new-build homes"</p> <p>...and bike parking? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-123027 Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:09:26 +0000 Morningsider 123027@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>EU legislation - don't make me laugh. The Germans will never stand for it, they have a long track record of watering down EU wide private vehicle emissions standards due to pressure from their huge car industry.</p> <p>I could easily be convinced that major car manufacturers are investing in electric vehicles as a way of ensuring that legislative action is not taken against them - as they can easily use these to convince politicians that these will "soon" replace all those horrible polluting internal combustion powered cars - no need to worry. If the technology does catch on, then that is a bonus for them.</p> <p>Electric vehicle sales in Scotland are so low that that Transport Scotland statisticians could easily list the names of all the buyers in their annual transport statistics without adding a single extra page. Hard to see this changing any time soon - easy to be any early adapter when you are shelling out a few hundred quid on a new bit of computer related techno wizardry, but who wants to spike the best part of £30k on a small car that could turn out to be the betamax of vehicle technology. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-123015 Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:15:51 +0000 chdot 123015@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"and a hefty dose of EU legislation"</p> <p>And a hefty dose of subsidy?</p> <p>And if England/UK leaves EU?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-123014 Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:03:04 +0000 chdot 123014@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> It has been the Next Big Thing for longer than most people can remember but there are signs that the much-derided electric car may finally be poised for it's moment in the sun. </p> <p>For Costing the Earth, Tom Heap visits the factory where a major European car maker's latest electric supermini takes it's place on the same production line as it's petrol and diesel cousins. </p> <p>And he discovers that experts believe that success will come this time thanks to a combination of improved technology, commercial imperatives and a hefty dose of EU legislation.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b038xrjr" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b038xrjr</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-118044 Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:07:36 +0000 chdot 118044@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/business/company-news/whatever-happened-to-our-electric-dreams.21567389" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/business/company-news/whatever-happened-to-our-electric-dreams.21567389</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-115483 Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:30:26 +0000 chdot 115483@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/funding-for-green-vehicle-loan-scheme-slashed-1-2973915" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/funding-for-green-vehicle-loan-scheme-slashed-1-2973915</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-95308 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:28:28 +0000 recombodna 95308@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Noticed quite a few on street charging points here in Amsterdam. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-95300 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:03:21 +0000 chdot 95300@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/city-refutes-green-travel-underspend-1-2711424" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/city-refutes-green-travel-underspend-1-2711424</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-95283 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:56:21 +0000 Calum 95283@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Humans will probably be the first species to cause their own extinction. Quite an achievement, when you think about it. We don't need no stinkin' meteors to create uninhabitable conditions - we just need to keep our heads in the sand, keep drinking the black milk, keep driving our cars every time we go to the corner shop. Or maybe we won't become extinct. It might just be that a few billion Africans starve and drown. But who cares about them - they don't have cars. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-95275 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:48:58 +0000 chdot 95275@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> South Lanarkshire had the biggest underspend, with £309,000 unused, while Edinburgh had £280,000 unspent and Fife £220,000 remaining<br /> " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-95274 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:44:24 +0000 Min 95274@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The Scottish Government has heavily promoted environmentally-friendly transport </em></p> <p>BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-95271 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 09:26:44 +0000 chdot 95271@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/millions-of-pounds-to-fund-electric-cars-is-left-gathering-dust-1-2710763" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/millions-of-pounds-to-fund-electric-cars-is-left-gathering-dust-1-2710763</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-86666 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:08:28 +0000 Peterward2008 86666@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lol Kaputnik </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-86663 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:01:41 +0000 kaputnik 86663@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When running over a cyclist or pedestrian, being in an electric car gives you the moral highground </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-86639 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:23:36 +0000 crowriver 86639@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Must be that 'Renewables Powerhouse of Europe' thang they got goin' on down at Bute House. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-86609 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:32:42 +0000 kaputnik 86609@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So it turns out that electric car batteries aren't made from gingerbread and sherbet and strawberries, but from an array of toxic and often scarce metals. Dang. Remind me again why the Scottish Government is spending £8m over 2 years on these things? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-86592 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:07:24 +0000 Min 86592@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19830232">Electric cars pose environmental threat</a></p> <p>From the BBC.</p> <p>They are far more pollutant to produce than dinosaur cars apparently. The article concludes that they do have an overall environmental benefit. But the fuel saving (in Europe) is on 10-24% so it is easy to see how extra driving caused by believing that you are saving the polar bears will cause more pollution. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7750&page=2#post-85271 Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:57:10 +0000 crowriver 85271@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Using bicycles for *all* short journeys is no more "the answer" than an electrically powered copy of an IC car</em></p> <p>I think it was <u>most</u> rather than all.</p> <p>There's always the old chestnut of "But how am I going to get this washing machine/fridge/cooker home from the shop?"</p> <p>How indeed. </p>