http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Noomad Pics en Mon, 18 May 2026 15:27:04 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81320 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:40:59 +0000 Uberuce 81320@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>*dresses up in frilly gingham and pigtails and says, innocently*</p> <p>Does this mean your blood really boiled when you were writing up the Trambles, Kappers? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81302 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:39:09 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81302@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Exactly the same way kappers. I was literally channeling Hugh Porter. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81300 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:37:55 +0000 kaputnik 81300@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Trying to think how to show off the various capabilities/benefits/drawbacks</em></p> <p>Try a tour of some of the council's finest bicycle infrastructure.</p> <p><em>The two of them combined must have been literally a tonne.<br /> </em></p> <p>In the same way that Hugh Porter described Jason Kenny as being "<em>literally on fire</em>" in the mens Olympic individual sprint? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81293 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:53:35 +0000 Min 81293@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Okay I understand now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81292 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:39:55 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81292@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My poor explanation....</p> <p>I need to look at the adaptor again to put a childseat up front. Just seems a little... dangerous. Not from a 'first thing to impact' kinda way, but little hands right next to spinning wheels... </p> <p>The fancy pants version of the kit has 26" wheels up front, rather than the teeny ones. Not sure how this would affect the handling. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81291 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:34:20 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81291@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Weight <em>distribution</em>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81290 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:33:24 +0000 SRD 81290@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm finding the preoccupation with weight slightly baffling. Anyone who routinely carries a child, or does their groceries by bike, or carries exam papers/books for work, is used to carrying heavy loads by bike, and I can't see that they would find it an issue. </p> <p>I can't imagine someone investing in this bike adaptation being worried about riding weight. Weight to carry upstairs, or load into car maybe. But I just don't think that discussion of weight makes the same sense here as in someone who wants a nippy road-bike.</p> <p>EDIT: sorry wc, we overlapped in posting. distribution makes sense. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81289 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:30:27 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81289@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Additional:</p> <p>The point I was trying to make (hence the need for a full review) is that the weight distribution is different. Two panniers on the back could carry the same amount of stuff, which would be noticeable in the handling (certainly from my experience of panniers/Carradice). Whereas adding weight to the front of this didn't change how it handled or felt when the pannier bag wasn't on there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81288 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:28:45 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81288@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The kit itself is pretty heavy. The ortlieb bag this morning was loaded with clothes for work, lunch, two cameras, toolkit and an iPad (and was damned heavy to lug up the stairs). The two of them combined must have been <em>literally</em> a tonne. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81287 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:58:57 +0000 Min 81287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> With a fully loaded bag on the front it weighs an absolute tonne - the Innocent Tunnel was a slog (though I did manage to pass someone) and you start to resent any time you have to stop.<br /> ----------<br /> I had a HUGE load in the front this morning, "</p> <p>What exactly was it that made it weigh a tonne, the wheel things or the weight you put on it? My panniers aren't heavy but even if I put loads of stuff in to make them heavy, it still doesn't mean the panniers themselves are heavy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81286 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:58:39 +0000 SRD 81286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Certainly handy to have a front carrier if childseat on back precludes panniers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81285 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:48:55 +0000 wingpig 81285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Shout when you're about half an hour from leaving if you want to be filmed for some of the way back. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81284 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:46:15 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81284@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>p.s. it's still reasonably ugly... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81283 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:45:31 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81283@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Right, impressions from the ride to work today...</p> <p>I need to find the rattle, it's really irritating.<br /> I turned back after 200 yards to remove the daft little mudguards which were wobbling about all over the place.<br /> With a fully loaded bag on the front it weighs an absolute tonne - the Innocent Tunnel was a slog (though I did manage to pass someone) and you start to resent any time you have to stop.<br /> Filtering is... Interesting. A lot of places I didn't bother - the wheels aren't as wide as the bars, but if you lean the bars out the way of something the wheels are still tracking the same so it's awkward.<br /> I had a HUGE load in the front this morning, and I can safely say it's less noticeable on the handling (more of which anon) than the same, or even lesser, weight mounted on panniers - I presume this is down to low centre of gravity and split over two wheels.<br /> It feels 'planted' in a straight line - rough surfaces are smoothed a touch by the fact the wheels move up and down. Independent suspension would obviously be great, but this pivoting bar arrangement works well.<br /> Turning is... To be learned - it actually feels okay, but once a bit faster can understeer, and hit any bump in the middle of the turn and there's definite understeer, which also feels odd cos on a normal bike this means you're off, on this it just understeers till it grabs again, but it's disconcerting.</p> <p>Overall (so far), I can actually see some of the benefit. It's more stable than higher mounted panniers, and out of the saddle honking you get now swaying weight behind you at all. It goves an additional load carrying option if you already have panniers. Still not sure I'd put a child seat there.</p> <p>Tonight it gets a viewing at TBC; Thursday at PY; then the end of next week the kit is handed over to retodirect, who has offered to give it a courier workout. Now <em>that</em> should be interesting.</p> <p>Probably get some more/better pics from the ride home tonight. Trying to think how to show off the various capabilities/benefits/drawbacks. Will be using the rest of the week, and possibly into next week, to get a real feel for it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81197 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:41:36 +0000 crowriver 81197@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Instant cargo-ish trike! </p> <p>I can see how it keeps the centre of gravity lower, but then so do lo-riders. I guess this doesn't affect steering/stability in the same way? </p> <p>Will be interested in the write up but I don't think I'll be getting one myself.....trailers and a cargo bike are enough for me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-81195 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:42:27 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 81195@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Noomad is getting its first commute tomorrow (Tuesday). Solved the mounting problem (it came with a couple of screws to screw into the V-brake bosses - 'cept I had none, blanked off since that bike runs discs, then realised the bosses were still on the cx bike forks, so removed them, bunged them on the MTB fork, away ye go).</p> <p>Too it for a spin to make sure everything was as it should be - bit rattly, not figured out where that's coming from, but actually a total blast. There are some lovely little things that happen. For instance if only one wheel goes over a speed cushion it stays level as that wheel just pivots up. Same for bumping down kerbs. Going 'up' little kerbs, though, is a bit hairier, as it tends to snatch the steering to the side. Quite looking forward to the commute now (specially cos I'd fogotten the be-slicked MTB is actually quite quick - which is making me look forward even more to sticking a lightweight rigid fork on, and some flat pedals for it to be shop/fun bike). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80530 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:03:31 +0000 Instography 80530@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks like a solution in search of a problem. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80526 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:43:32 +0000 LaidBack 80526@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's like a 'bike hod' on the front (pre carryfreedom trailer design).<br /> It's almost logical.<br /> If it makes a tilting trike then it might just sell in limited quantities.</p> <p>Downside<br /> • price<br /> • people want to conform and this is is like the tilting scooter I see around town<br /> • two tyre sizes - but less wear per tyre<br /> • three wheels have three tracks hence potholes cannot be avoided (not that this deters recumbent trike sales)<br /> • mudguards needed or does the spray go round you?<br /> • Scotrail will not like it<br /> • parking in bike space - then again it stands alone?</p> <p>Upside<br /> • tram track and ice proof?</p> <p>Look forward to your review... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80524 Mon, 06 Aug 2012 16:47:35 +0000 retrodirect 80524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It looks absolutely mental. Would love a shot of that. Is it some sort of brake splitter up front too? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80422 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:19:55 +0000 gembo 80422@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What did the cat in the photo think? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80413 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:50:11 +0000 wingpig 80413@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"I'm thinking of the advantages when it comes to winter."</em></blockquote></p> <p>You could rig up a hopper for the front out of a big bag or box and some kitchen funnels, fill it with rock salt and trundle around the off-road paths to save the council the bother... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80409 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:09:01 +0000 Arellcat 80409@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm thinking of the advantages when it comes to winter. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80401 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 14:31:28 +0000 thebikechain 80401@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like the idea for people with limited mobility. Makes a normal bike a real option for them in some cases.</p> <p>Also, kid carrying and general shopping would be fun. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80400 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 14:22:20 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 80400@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think it's if you've already filled up the rear panniers and still need space. Although you could just get front panniers. </p> <p>Because the wheels pivot it's not free-standing for better balance and the like either... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80399 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 14:16:12 +0000 ExcitableBoy 80399@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Saw these in a vid I think chdot posted recently. Looks fun(ky), but when you can put two panniers (and more) on a rear rack I'm not quite sure why you'd bother? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80397 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:57:37 +0000 RJ 80397@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>*snigger*</p> <p>It's a trikey stabiliser thing ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8022#post-80396 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:43:13 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 80396@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is really... Odd... Noomad contacted me a while back asking for an address to send something to test/review for citycycling. I'd forgotten about it, till a huge box arrived yesterday.</p> <p>Basically all you have to do is remove your front wheel and brake, then the frame fits into the fork dropouts with a quick release bar. The axle for the wee wheels is positioned a bit below this, the whole thing having been designed for 26" wheel bikes, so the geometry is maintained.</p> <p>Costs about £300, which is a bit steep - oh, and they threw in a nice Ortlieb as well...</p> <p>The wheels lean on a pivoty bar thingy, so both remain in contact when turning (though I tried a few sharp turns and things slid). Going to make sure everything is secure over the weekend, since I had to have a wee workaround with not all the fixings in the box, stick a slick tyre on the back, and take it commuting next week. Expecting some very odd looks...</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7703591904/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/7703591904_e507e9bb47.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7703591904/">Untitled</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/blackpuddinonnabike/">blackpuddinonnabike</a>, on Flickr</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7703597508/"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8291/7703597508_b0eafd391c.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7703597508/">Untitled</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/blackpuddinonnabike/">blackpuddinonnabike</a>, on Flickr</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7703598502/"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7703598502_6c7905e1b9.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/7703598502/">Untitled</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/blackpuddinonnabike/">blackpuddinonnabike</a>, on Flickr </p>