http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Lance latest en Sat, 11 Apr 2026 07:17:47 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-383755 Wed, 01 Apr 2026 10:03:22 +0000 chdot 383755@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>4. The Lance Armstrong Defence </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002styh" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002styh</a></p> <p>Not much about LA, but useful analysis about aspects of ‘how we got where we are now’ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-338270 Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:43:49 +0000 I were right about that saddle 338270@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Me too. It was well done. Everyone got the space required to show who and what they are, especially Mr Armstrong. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-338268 Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:39:18 +0000 Rosie 338268@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I just watched the film <em>Lance</em> on BBC I-player. Not only a fascinating picture of a cycling warlord, but that Tour de France thingie looks quite exciting. I might catch some of it when it starts off again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-255685 Sat, 22 Jul 2017 14:05:31 +0000 chdot 255685@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Whatever your opinion on Lance Armstrong, liking his podcast is not a sin</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/22/lance-armstrong-podcast-tour-de-france-cycling" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/22/lance-armstrong-podcast-tour-de-france-cycling</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-242952 Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:25:40 +0000 acsimpson 242952@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I might be sticking my head above the parapet on this one but personally I agree with Lance that it should be thrown out of court.</p> <p>These brands benefited from Lance's misdemeanours even more than he did. Their reputation hasn't been damaged by his actions either as they didn't condone or encourage them (at least that's what we are lead to believe).</p> <p>For instance I'm sure US Postal made back their sponsorship many times over during the Lance era and are not losing any business now due to it either.</p> <p>I can see why competitors and team mates might have a case but not the sponsors. Let's assume Floyd Landis was clean for instance he could presumably have earned more if Lance wasn't cheating. Likewise FedEx might have a case as their competitor US Postal was benefiting from Lance's cheating. However IANAL so what do I know. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-242811 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 19:15:59 +0000 nobrakes 242811@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Aye, exactly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-242796 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:51:06 +0000 I were right about that saddle 242796@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@nobrakes</p> <p>Lance messed with money. Kill who you like, but <em>do not mess with big brands</em>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-242793 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:39:59 +0000 nobrakes 242793@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The world is utterly stupid. </p> <p>This equates to (roughly, within an order of magnitude or so) the fine you might expect in our courts if you mow down 80000 pedestrians in your car. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-242778 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:12:16 +0000 chdot 242778@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.itv.com/news/2017-02-13/lance-armstrong-set-to-face-80m-lawsuit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.itv.com/news/2017-02-13/lance-armstrong-set-to-face-80m-lawsuit/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-201609 Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:52:15 +0000 chdot 201609@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>@theprogramfilm: From director Stephen Frears, discover the thrilling true story of the rise and fall of Lance Armstrong, on Oct 16</p> <p><a href="https://t.co/FjDy6JWiCr" rel="nofollow">https://t.co/FjDy6JWiCr</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-198712 Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:27:16 +0000 chdot 198712@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>@cyclingweekly: New trailer for Lance Armstrong film ‘The Program’ looks stunning (video) | <a href="http://t.co/sNUfwqFDbZ" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/sNUfwqFDbZ</a> <a href="http://t.co/797wwHadWw" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/797wwHadWw</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-193079 Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:12:17 +0000 chdot 193079@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/11/lance-armstrong-tour-de-france-return-questions" rel="nofollow">http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/11/lance-armstrong-tour-de-france-return-questions</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-191954 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:20:48 +0000 chdot 191954@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm not putting this in this thread because of 'suspicion' - more of a contrast. </p> <p>"</p> <p>Chris Froome admits missing out-of-competition drugs tests Team Sky rider says 2 tests missed 5 years apart - the latest when hotel staff refused to let testers see him</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.road.cc/content/news/155077-chris-froome-admits-missing-out-competition-drugs-tests" rel="nofollow">http://www.road.cc/content/news/155077-chris-froome-admits-missing-out-competition-drugs-tests</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-191638 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:22:17 +0000 chdot 191638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Cycling Weekly (@cyclingweekly)<br /> 23/06/2015 09:58<br /> Tinkoff-Saxo stand by Nicki Sorensen after doping admission | </p> <p><a href="http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/former-tinkoff-saxo-rider-nicki-sorensen-admits-to-doping-in-his-career-178187" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/former-tinkoff-saxo-rider-nicki-sorensen-admits-to-doping-in-his-career-178187</a></p> <p><a href="http://pic.twitter.com/lAgpKVUW40" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/lAgpKVUW40</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-181039 Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:44:22 +0000 gembo 181039@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>He has opened a coffee shop across from evans. I had double espresso takeaway on way home the other night and beat all the Juan pelota strava KoMs on way up lanark road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-179780 Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:53:33 +0000 Min 179780@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This time, he <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31125348">hits and runs.</a></p> <p>Only cars damaged fortunately. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-179068 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:29:01 +0000 paddyirish 179068@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My overwhelming feeling still is that he is only sorry that he got caught.</p> <p>Lots of other dopers, but still feel that his behaviour towards others is what marks him out to be made an example of. Hope that there is no leniency. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-179066 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:27:00 +0000 condor2378 179066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wow. He got old. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-179005 Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:51:02 +0000 Kenny 179005@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That headline is pretty bad. In the same circumstances and at the same time, he'd do the same thing. Not really that surprising, considering his justification (that everyone else was doing it). Aargh, I'm feeling empathy for him again. Must try to suppress it... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-178998 Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:12:34 +0000 chdot 178998@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>I'd probably cheat again - Armstrong</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/30981609" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/30981609</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-162458 Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:52:47 +0000 chdot 162458@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Meanwhile, no interview with Fox can avoid Sheridan. Is his old enemy making a referendum comeback? "I couldn't care," he says. "Tommy Sheridan is the Lance Armstrong of Scottish politics. The only difference is that Lance Armstrong finally admitted what he did.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/the-middle-classes-in-scotland-are-complacent-they-pay-lip-service-to-pover.25053495" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/the-middle-classes-in-scotland-are-complacent-they-pay-lip-service-to-pover.25053495</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-159151 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 20:05:45 +0000 Kenny 159151@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just finished watching Storyville. If you've not read it, I suggest you go read The Secret Race by Tyler Hamilton (and Daniel Coyle). About 90% of what was in Storyville is in that book, as far as I recall. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-159109 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:30:57 +0000 PS 159109@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I watched the Storyville documentary on the iPlayer last night. I'd recommend it as a good, easily digestable summary of the Armstrong doping story. </p> <p>It didn't add anything that hadn't been in the public domain for years in books like Walsh's From Lance to Landis (2007), but in amongst all the evidence of bad behaviour it did give some clear insight into why that group of American cyclists started doping. I don't condone what they did by any means, but I understand why they did it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-159100 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:04:09 +0000 Min 159100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think not liking Lance Armstrong has quite a bit to do with it. I read <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bad-Blood-Secret-Life-France/dp/0224080237/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1404896402&amp;sr=1-4&amp;keywords=bad+blood">this book</a> and it made me pretty angry as the author was pretty open about the fact that he was going after Lance Armstrong because when he got famous he stopped returning his calls etc and that he was fine about Hincapie and Millar and so on taking drugs because he liked them. :-/ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-159085 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 08:32:41 +0000 PS 159085@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm not sure anyone can say Team Sky have been given a free ride over Geert Leinders. Walsh has written about it in detail, criticising Brailsford's judgement. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=4#post-159084 Wed, 09 Jul 2014 05:02:12 +0000 gibbo 159084@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The thing that stood out to me was David Walsh - who is in tight with Team Sky - saying to Lance that Lance's relationship with a tarnished doctor is unacceptable.</p> <p>Don't remember Walsh making similar statements when interviewing Brailsford, Wiggins, Froome.</p> <p>A depressing reminder of how the same warning signs that were ignored 15 years ago are still being ignored. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=3#post-159022 Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:30:33 +0000 threefromleith 159022@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>He came across as a really nasty, vindictive piece of work on the documentary that they showed the night before. I'm not surprised people either joined him or kept quiet afterwards - he had the power to trash reputations, ruin lives and ruin businesses if you crossed him (and he exercised that power at every opportunity).</p> <p>A very scary man. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=3#post-159005 Tue, 08 Jul 2014 11:40:49 +0000 I were right about that saddle 159005@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Watched the Armstrong thing on iPlayer last night. Really grim. Nothing to do with cycling as such, just the capacity of the man to do what he did and persuade a group of people round about him to join in or at least keep schtum. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=3#post-158962 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 22:22:17 +0000 Min 158962@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I am watching it but it is getting past my bedtime and I may give up soon. I was expecting more of a hatchet job but it seems rather sympathetic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8257&page=3#post-158960 Mon, 07 Jul 2014 20:59:23 +0000 chdot 158960@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>2 1/2hrs!</p> <p>Mmm perhaps not... </p>