http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Rack removal - Rose Street en Wed, 13 May 2026 03:45:46 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-197049 Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:29:13 +0000 paulmilne 197049@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Other downside is that there appears to be a motorcyle blocking most of the racks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-196933 Wed, 26 Aug 2015 00:02:11 +0000 Snowy 196933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's actually a pretty space efficient design, and good locking options. Only downside appears to be that the bikes are kept upright by a wheelbender-style bit at the rear wheel, unless I'm missing something? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-196857 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:21:26 +0000 wingpig 196857@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Noticed this the other day in Roae St South Lane between Charlotte and Castle:<br /> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/xxK8xm"><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5648/20706286366_16e0ce0921_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/xxK8xm">IMG_20150820_140033006</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/wingpig/">wingpig</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-137516 Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:47:11 +0000 chdot 137516@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Neighbouring residents, Police Scotland, local businesses and the New Town Community Council all opposed the pub bid led by Glendola Leisure.</p> <p>Superintendent Matt Richards said granting the application “ran counter” to police anti-social behaviour campaigns and would create another “hot spot” for hard-pressed officers to prioritise.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/rose-street-superpub-snubbed-by-planners-1-3238104" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/rose-street-superpub-snubbed-by-planners-1-3238104</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-114456 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:56:40 +0000 kaputnik 114456@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Will be interesting to see how the new "Westernised" regime running the Polis respond to this. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-114450 Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:45:57 +0000 chdot 114450@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/waxy-o-connors-pub-bid-hopes-for-charlotte-chapel-1-2966629" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/waxy-o-connors-pub-bid-hopes-for-charlotte-chapel-1-2966629</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-111973 Mon, 27 May 2013 12:37:40 +0000 chdot 111973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Plan</p> <p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2a47xy5mv2omj9/P9_4_002_RS2.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2a47xy5mv2omj9/P9_4_002_RS2.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-111961 Mon, 27 May 2013 11:12:24 +0000 chdot 111961@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Email to <a href="mailto:info@citycyclingedinburgh.info">info@citycyclingedinburgh.info</a> and I'll deal with it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-111960 Mon, 27 May 2013 11:02:40 +0000 fiets 111960@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>...help! I have the plans attached to an e-mail but if you can send idiot-proof instructions I will happily attempt to link them! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-111959 Mon, 27 May 2013 10:52:08 +0000 chdot 111959@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Their plans"</p> <p>Link? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-111957 Mon, 27 May 2013 10:49:08 +0000 fiets 111957@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>An update… Essential Edinburgh have confirmed that they will be replacing racks along this part of rose street. Their plans show 3 racks next to the Roxburghe, 3 opposite the Amber Rose and they are replacing the temporary racks next to the police box in the middle of this section with an additional 3. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88671 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:14:04 +0000 Uberuce 88671@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What next? A rack where every stand has a mother bear to the left and her cub to the right? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88661 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:08:55 +0000 DaveC 88661@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well I certainly never knew it was there and would be reluctant to leave my bike locked up out of sign to the bulk of the public passing by. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88659 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:04:56 +0000 chdot 88659@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"This has space for probably 15 bikes or so but is, quite understandably, never used....I struggle with the concept of parking my bike down a dark alley, next to a couple of skips, in an area that is not overlooked, has minimal lighting and very few passers-by"</p> <p>I think you are right - but presumably people don't know it's there either! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88640 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:02:50 +0000 fiets 88640@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>...Essential Edinburgh did indeed junk the old rack about a month ago as part of the 'decluttering' in advance of the poetic-redesigning of this end of rose street. The chap I spoke to was really helpful and put the temporary rack in (better than nothing and at least maintains use of this space as somewhere to park your bike). I gather that the long-term plan has been to place racks at either end of each stretch of rose street thereby leaving the central areas free for markets/cafe's etc. My point is that in Holland bike racks are everywhere making cycling safer (no walking around in the dark - Essential Edinburgh also 'decluttered' all the lighting along this stretch a month ago), more convenient therefore more folks will cycle around town and finally, you can keep an eye on your bike thus reducing thefts etc. If you truly want to design a cycle friendly city centre/encourage cycling, it's clear that this is the way to go but sadly, i agree that it doesn't bring in revenue in the way that cars and street markets do. Essential Edinburgh also showed me a new, covered, but absolutely unused, bike rack behind the pub (same area but down a lane which runs in-between and parallel to princess st and rose st). This has space for probably 15 bikes or so but is, quite understandably, never used....I struggle with the concept of parking my bike down a dark alley, next to a couple of skips, in an area that is not overlooked, has minimal lighting and very few passers-by but the council are frustrated that they have provided a rack that no-body uses…. When they finally start replacing the racks on rose street I'm hoping they see sense and we get the old rack back in situ, next to the police box - which apparently cannot be 'decluttered'.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88218 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:51:02 +0000 lionfish 88218@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@DaveC: I guess it explains why "infrastructure" ends up costing so much... so depressing though :( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88212 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:59:05 +0000 SRD 88212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>thinking positively,maybe plan is to have all new matching sheffields. question then is, what happens to old ones? redeployed? or junked? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88193 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:29:22 +0000 DaveC 88193@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So they removed Sheffeild stands temporarly and bought wheel benders as a temp replacement? They planned to move the original stands all along? Why didn't they just move the stands in the first place rather than waste cash buying, installing and then removing wheel benders? Dhoop!!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88192 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:27:04 +0000 crowriver 88192@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oooh. Well done SRD for following that up. </p> <p>I do wonder though what was wrong with the old Sheffield stands? Too much 'visual clutter'? In the way of street stalls? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88187 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:15:28 +0000 SRD 88187@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Essential Edinburgh (@EssentialEdin)<br /> 19/10/2012 13:13<br /> @SRDEdinburgh @planningedin @Edinburgh_CC There'll be new sheffield stands installed soon on Rose St.We've put a temporary rack in currently </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88112 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:37:42 +0000 cc 88112@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've just heard back from Essential Edinburgh about bike parking at the Lothian Road / Shandwick Place junction. They say "Thank you very much for you e-mail regarding bicycle parking facilities, however you need to direct your request to City of Edinburgh Council as we do not have any responsibility for that area."<br /> Checking the <a href="http://www.essentialedinburgh.co.uk/ee-subpage.aspx?pageID=40">map of the EE area</a> I see that where I was is indeed a couple of paces outside of the area.<br /> Edit: I've now mailed the request to <a href="mailto:cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk">cycling@edinburgh.gov.uk</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88078 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:33:03 +0000 crowriver 88078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Roibeard, this is where the business plan appears to conflict with the 'Rose Street Project': <a href="http://www.essentialedinburgh.co.uk/ee-subpage.aspx?pageID=167" rel="nofollow">http://www.essentialedinburgh.co.uk/ee-subpage.aspx?pageID=167</a></p> <p>Specifically:</p> <p><em>The Key Priorities are:</p> <p>• Creating a traffic management plan that can be easily enforced<br /> • Create welcoming and interesting entrances<br /> • Establish a year round activity plan<br /> • Improve the Public Realm (lighting/street furniture/surfaces)</p> <p>Traffic Management</p> <p>• Establish an optimal traffic plan<br /> • Establish measures to enforce it (such as the use of Large Planters, ,trees and extended outdoor seating)<br /> • Encourage pedestrians to flow along the full length of Rose Street .</em></p> <p>And:</p> <p><em>Activity Plan</p> <p>• Create spaces and facilities to allow entertainment, events and markets to take place along the length of Rose Street </em></p> <p>It's that last bit that got the cycle parking removed.</p> <p>Devil in the detail, as ever... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88069 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:17:18 +0000 Roibeard 88069@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD &amp; crowriver - improved from when? From before they ripped out the Sheffield stands or from the current wheelbenders?</p> <p>A bit like a shop putting up their prices, then having a sale...</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88068 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:01:22 +0000 crowriver 88068@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the business plan, under 'Accessibility', 5 year budget £235,000 (£43,000 this year):</p> <p>- To champion a breakthrough parking initiative – possible underground<br /> towards west end of George Street.<br /> - Develop a coordinated signage plan incorporating visitor access points<br /> and business location finding (maps and directories).<br /> <strong>- Improved access and storage facilities for cyclists.</strong> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324&page=2#post-88064 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:56:19 +0000 wingpig 88064@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Someone's probably said it before but York city centre could teach Edinburgh several things about providing parking for bicycles. I'd've taken some photos had I not been bairnwrangling but it feels like pretty much every third street corner has a big pile of Sheffield racks. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324#post-88062 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:47:07 +0000 SRD 88062@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Essential Edinburgh (@EssentialEdin)<br /> 18/10/2012 16:54<br /> @SRDEdinburgh Hi Sara, improved cycle facilities is in our Draft Business Plan: tinyurl.com/9o4qz6u Until then council may be able to help. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324#post-88056 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:50:14 +0000 cc 88056@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@DaveC: I've emailed them. Thanks! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324#post-88055 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:22:26 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 88055@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Makes it even worse that there <em>were</em> decent stands there that were taken away! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324#post-88054 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:18:19 +0000 Morningsider 88054@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>crowriver - Here's what "Cycling by Design" the Scottish Government's policy on cycle infrastructure says about the wheelbender type of parking:</p> <p>"Cycle stands which only grip the cycle by a wheel (including butterfly racks and concrete slots) are not recommended as they offer only limited security, can cause a trip hazard to pedestrians and can damage wheel rims."</p> <p>Scotland has the policies - but people just ignore them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8324#post-88050 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:07:03 +0000 DaveC 88050@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chris try emailing EE here:</p> <p><a href="http://www.essentialedinburgh.co.uk/ee-contactEmail.aspx?pageID=36" rel="nofollow">http://www.essentialedinburgh.co.uk/ee-contactEmail.aspx?pageID=36</a> </p>