http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: How 'Stop de Kindermoord' works in Oz en Mon, 01 Jun 2026 00:40:58 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83458 Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:46:40 +0000 Roibeard 83458@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I particularly liked the visible proof that cars are dangerous - look how much damage they can do to vulnerable road users if the car is driven into them...</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83457 Wed, 05 Sep 2012 07:28:20 +0000 gembo 83457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was out with the scouts cycling in the dark last night. Twenty four twelve year olds. On roads with some cars and off road. Not risk free and one minor injury where one scout tried to cycle through the reservoir run off channel. a calculated risk. I imagine some of the fishermen and dognwalkers/ drivers thought we were pushing it. I tend to factor in what something will look like to others. Thus even if I think it safe, I weigh up what it looks like from the outside. Not always but it is a factor. None of that justifies what the big black car was up to? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83454 Wed, 05 Sep 2012 04:10:00 +0000 Stepdoh 83454@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>OMLG, this is probably the worst bit of hack reporting I've seen in an age. And I see a lot of hack reporting these days.</p> <p>So lets look at the facts...</p> <p>- Person legally riding bike in city.<br /> - Footage of bus stopping safely behind trailer shown three times, underlining that the bus could clearly see the trailer and stop behind it.<br /> - They keep saying it's a congested traffic zone, therefore traffic should be moving slowly.<br /> - The crash test is at 60kph - 10 kph above the 50 speed limit on city roads, far higher than every<br /> - The trailer is described as a canvas bag.<br /> - They get a presenter from 2GB (which is one of those hacky talkback stations that attract every 'cist and phobe going) as their expert.<br /> - Journalist editorialises by saying "This should be illegal" pre-empting the expert.<br /> - Expert talks of lack of visibility, when the footage shows the person is pretty bloody visible.</p> <p>The only illegal transport was the loser in the black car tailgating her in the bus lane.</p> <p>*Snarl* </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83450 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:04:40 +0000 wee folding bike 83450@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Jings, a Brompton towing a kid in a trailer. This is news?</p> <p>I don't bother strapping mine in anymore, they know not to get out when it's moving.</p> <p>They don't wear hats. </p> <p>They do sometimes carry the Flip and video the passing traffic.</p> <p>I might not pay any heed to the US inspired manufacturer's speed limit of 10 mph because it can do 30 downhill and that's more fun for boys.</p> <p>Number 4 has occasionally travelled upside down because it's fun. He also tried putting his finger on the road. Apparently it hurts.</p> <p>I've got no interest in going to Australia but I sometimes wonder if they really can be that crazy for cars. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83415 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 18:28:32 +0000 crowriver 83415@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sorry, I missed a link in my post. </p> <p>A cyclists' response:</p> <p><a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/theurbanist/2012/09/01/is-aca-playing-the-mum-on-cycling/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.crikey.com.au/theurbanist/2012/09/01/is-aca-playing-the-mum-on-cycling/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83401 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:41:19 +0000 Roibeard 83401@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yep, I've had tuts from drivers who felt it inappropriate for the kids to be on the road. Usually just as they attempt to "door" the kids...</p> <p>It always smacks of "oops, I've made a mistake, must find someone else to blame."</p> <p>Does tend to leave a sour taste in the mouth though, no matter how thick skinned you may be!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83393 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:12:22 +0000 Dave 83393@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's what you get for living in Fife, where everybody is 30 years behind the central belt mind you ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83392 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:59:01 +0000 Instography 83392@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was recently informed that there shouldn't be a segregated cycle lane from my village to Rosyth because it will only encourage children to cycle and it's too dangerous for children to cycle. Err, duh! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83390 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:48:42 +0000 fimm 83390@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=48597" rel="nofollow">http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=48597</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83386 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:34:07 +0000 minus six 83386@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Stop the child terror</p> <p><a href="http://crapwalthamforest.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/stop-child-terror.html" rel="nofollow">http://crapwalthamforest.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/stop-child-terror.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8338#post-83378 Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:04:39 +0000 crowriver 83378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bit of a hoo-ha about a 'bad mother' cycling with her child in a trailer in downtown Sydney:</p> <p><img src="http://images.ninemsn.com.au/resizer.aspx?height=124&amp;width=218&amp;url=http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/img/2012/3008bike.jpg"></p> <p><a href="http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8524906" rel="nofollow">http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8524906</a></p> <p>Way to go, cognitive dissonance!</p> <p>Here's a cyclists' response:</p> <p>And the mother's side of the story (being harrassed by two folk in an SUV for 15 minutes) which pre-dates the TV spot:</p> <p><a href="http://www.sydneycyclist.com/forum/topics/child-endangerment-verbally-abused-filmed" rel="nofollow">http://www.sydneycyclist.com/forum/topics/child-endangerment-verbally-abused-filmed</a></p> <p>All this seems to have inspired a story arc in the Yehuda Moon comic (now free for all to read once more):</p> <p><a href="http://yehudamoon.com/08292012-dangerous-intersection/" rel="nofollow">http://yehudamoon.com/08292012-dangerous-intersection/</a> </p>