http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Bike to Work - online en Sun, 17 May 2026 20:22:17 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7449 Tue, 25 May 2010 16:59:31 +0000 spytfyre 7449@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"How do you make money on the web?"<br /> @Kim - It has something to do with webcams, pay per view and some tacky lounge music doesn't it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7446 Tue, 25 May 2010 16:30:23 +0000 Kim 7446@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How <em>do</em> you make money on the web? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7443 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:57:35 +0000 steveo 7443@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The relative methods of loosing money on the web? Perhaps that's better phrased :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7441 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:51:05 +0000 chdot 7441@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"i'll shut up about the relative methods of making money on the web"</p> <p>you mean <em>you</em> know how to...(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7440 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:51:00 +0000 Kim 7440@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks one and all, I need cheering up after 1 1/2 hours of teaching kids to cycle and they being over taken while I was signalling a right turn, by an idiot wanting wait at the red light 50m up the road for and extra 10 seconds, on my way home. Can we through in some views on helmets and Hi-Viz in cycle promotion. ;-)</p> <p>What ever happen to no matter what you ride so long as you do?</p> <p>I just want roads which are safe to ride on. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7439 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:40:56 +0000 steveo 7439@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I read lots of mags online. Momentum Magazine has an Issuu.com version. I have no problem with the ads."</p> <p>I have no problem with even moderately intrusive ads but ad's which block the flow of the editorial break my chain of thought, i find that its not clear what is editorial and what is advert with the ad format used in your publication, i can't comment on other web mags as i tend not to read publication in that format. I dislike the magazine format on the web it translates about as well as physical music sales, dying business model desperately trying to stay relevant against a relentless march of change. </p> <p>Don't get me wrong i like both CD's and magazines but neither formats are ideal for the web.</p> <p>Sorry every one, i'll shut up about the relative methods of making money on the web right now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7438 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:36:06 +0000 spytfyre 7438@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I <em>think</em> this forum is a <em>bit</em> more varied than that"<br /> @chdot - yep, I am not died in the wool anything, I just use it as a means to get to work that is cheaper (and faster) than the bus and faster than walking, while gaining some much needed exercise along the way... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7437 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:34:39 +0000 chdot 7437@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"see <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1905490534?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=cyclingedinbu-21&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creativeASIN=1905490534">'Bicycle' by the Guardian's Helen Pidd</a>"</p> <p>Former University of Edinburgh student. <a href="http://twitter.com/helenandchips/status/14150411868">Recently took part in the Etape</a>.</p> <p><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1905490534?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=cyclingedinbu-21&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1634&amp;creativeASIN=1905490534"><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oRoyzWGRL._SS420_.jpg"></p> <p></a></p> <p>"<a href="http://twitter.com/helenandchips/status/14614194417">Like pedalling around Hackney? All the pics in my new cycling guide are taken around London Fields</a>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7433 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:13:44 +0000 carltonreid 7433@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I read lots of mags online. Momentum Magazine has an Issuu.com version. I have no problem with the ads.</p> <p>a. I know it's paying for the mag b. I like looking at ads. They can be useful sources of info, not included in editorial.</p> <p>Ads for Coca Cola would be intrusive in a bicycle publication, but ads for bicycles? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7428 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:09:23 +0000 carltonreid 7428@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>SRD: Cycle chic is © CopenhagenizeCycleChic and is mostly pix of women on bikes.</p> <p>Mikael of Copenhagenize has a piece in the book and lots of pix, too.</p> <p>I wanted to avoid sectionalising women with a women's section of the book, ie from a text point of view. The 'women on wheels' multi-page spread isn't instructional, it's meant to be inspirational, with pix telling the story.</p> <p>For a general bike book written by a woman, see 'Bicycle' by the Guardian's Helen Pidd. It's out soon. £14.99. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7427 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:05:32 +0000 chdot 7427@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tangents are fine.</p> <p>It's hijacks that confuse. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7425 Tue, 25 May 2010 15:00:52 +0000 steveo 7425@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Not fair to say at all. 24 pages of ads in 98 page book. That's an ad/editorial ratio of 1:4, lower than most magazines (which you pay for, too)."</p> <p>Must just be the format, (imo) full page ads seem fine in a glossy but more obtrusive on the web. Any way i'll try to avoid taking this thread into yet another tangent. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7424 Tue, 25 May 2010 14:45:26 +0000 chdot 7424@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks for responding to the comments Carlton.</p> <p>"While members of this, and other forums, tend to be died-in-the-wool enthusiast cyclists"</p> <p><em>I think</em> this forum is a <em>bit</em> more varied than that -</p> <p>"I'm trying to reach out to the unconverted"</p> <p>So are 'we'...</p> <p>It's not easy!</p> <p>Your book is a worthy attempt. (That sounds patronising - but it's not meant to be!)</p> <p>I'm quite sure Richard Ballantine didn't have any particularly 'evangelical' intentions when he wrote his book, and he certainly wouldn't have anticipated the long term influence it has had. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834&page=2#post-7423 Tue, 25 May 2010 14:32:34 +0000 SRD 7423@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Okay, but can you tell me why the section on women is subtitled 'cycle-chic'? why not a section on cycle-chic? or a section on women? I don't 'get' why they are conflated. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7422 Tue, 25 May 2010 14:30:43 +0000 carltonreid 7422@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Steveo said: "With more ads than content its fair to say."</p> <p>Not fair to say at all. 24 pages of ads in 98 page book. That's an ad/editorial ratio of 1:4, lower than most magazines (which you pay for, too).</p> <p>SRD: yes, the photo spread of 'Women on wheels' is just pix. It's a photo spread. There's tons of text in the book to go with the pix.</p> <p>Arellcat: I agree, it has an odd mid-Atlantic flavour. Sometimes I say 'sidewalk', sometimes 'pavement'. I think I use 'colour' throughout, mind. None of the US audience has commented on this, and there have been 250,000+ views and downloads of the book.</p> <p>As well as being on clicky-flicky Issuu.com, the book has gone out via iTunes to podcasts, including the Fredcast of the US.</p> <p>SRD: "In a book on commuting, I would have expected something about HGVs." It's touched upon but not laboured. This is a 98-page, short version of the full book. The bigger version has more content about HGVs, and lots of other topics.</p> <p>This will also be free. The extra editorial will dilute the ads a bit more. Many apologies to those who don't think ads should be in there but that's the business model I have adopted. And, as you can see from the readership numbers, I've been successful.</p> <p>While members of this, and other forums, tend to be died-in-the-wool enthusiast cyclists, I'm trying to reach out to the unconverted. Apart from Richard's Bicycle Book of the 1970s, name me another beginner's bicycle book that's had in excess of a qtr of a million 'buyers'.</p> <p>As a freebie the Bike to Work Book will reach out to newbies. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7403 Tue, 25 May 2010 13:20:26 +0000 Min 7403@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Oh - you mean like this -</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4636189017" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4636189017</a> "</p> <p>I expect some spectacular summer plumage will come out when the winter/spring jackets are moulted off. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7384 Tue, 25 May 2010 10:21:09 +0000 chdot 7384@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"it is very much to men's credit that they think"</p> <p>aye </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7383 Tue, 25 May 2010 10:19:00 +0000 SRD 7383@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My point was not about the content of Cycle Chic, but that on this forum, it seems to be the men who are obsessed with it, but then bizarrely, it is the focus of this section which purports to be about women (in a book written by a man)! </p> <p>For the record, I do think many men are very sensible and concerned about gender issues, and there is no monopoly on women writing about them. And it is very much to men's credit that they think the gender imbalance in cycling is a bad thing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7382 Tue, 25 May 2010 10:17:11 +0000 chdot 7382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Maybe we need a new thread"</p> <p>feel free </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7380 Tue, 25 May 2010 10:12:50 +0000 Kim 7380@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe we need a new thread on "<a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=846">What is Cycle Chic?</a>" as we are straying. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7376 Tue, 25 May 2010 09:53:58 +0000 chdot 7376@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I've got a secret ambition to burn past people in a suit"</p> <p>You mean like this?</p> <p><a href="http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/05/bidding-with-bicycles.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/05/bidding-with-bicycles.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7373 Tue, 25 May 2010 09:35:45 +0000 chdot 7373@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"of course, may just be a reflection of general demographics"</p> <p>It's certainly a reflection of the fact that bicycles and discussion about them (and to a lesser extent use of computers) attract more male persons than female. This forum reflects <em>that</em> - unfortunately.</p> <p>Connected is the whole business of 'cycle chic' discussed here and elsewhere (there's a <a href="http://www.streetfilms.org/cycle-chic-in-copenhagen-and-beyond">new 4 minute movie</a> about it). On one level it's about highlighting that 'ordinary people' cycle in normal/attractive clothing.</p> <p>It's inevitable that photos have been (mostly) of women - reflecting the gender balance of camera ownership/use, the greater variety of styles that women are 'allowed' (culturally) to adopt, <em>and</em> the desire by 'cycle campaigners' to highlight that more women (than before) <em>are</em> cycling and by showing this to be 'normal' the intention is to encourage even more.</p> <p>But... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7370 Tue, 25 May 2010 09:18:03 +0000 SRD 7370@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Answer me this: Who starts/replies to all the threads about t-shirts, being too trendy etc?</p> <p>(of course, may just be a reflection of general demographics) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7366 Tue, 25 May 2010 00:26:10 +0000 chdot 7366@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> "Must be our time of month."</p> <p>A Monday? *innocence*</p> <p>"</p> <p>Aye - you and Min innocents on the Innocent... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7365 Tue, 25 May 2010 00:17:17 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 7365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>Has *anybody* managed to write about cycling "for women" without either treating them as men (and so failing to address whatever the reason is for lower uptake) or being accused of patronisation?</em>"</p> <p>Sam Fleming wrote about being a <a href="http://www.citycycling.co.uk/issue47/issue47page28.html">female bike geek</a> in citycycling, not sure if that counts?</p> <p>And while I'm here, <a href="http://www.citycycling.co.uk/issue57/chic1.html">Up Chic Creek</a> might be of interest to those who think the whole Copenhagenize idea is taking things a little too far.</p> <p>"<em>Must be our time of month.</em>"</p> <p>A Monday? *<em>innocence</em>* </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7364 Tue, 25 May 2010 00:08:54 +0000 chdot 7364@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"and don't own any cheap black suits that I don't care about"</p> <p>Thought that's what charity shops were for... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7363 Tue, 25 May 2010 00:05:10 +0000 Dave 7363@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've got a secret ambition to burn past people in a suit, but so far the fact that I work in casual dress (and don't own any cheap black suits that I don't care about) has held me back.</p> <p>With elbow pads and full-facer, of course... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7360 Mon, 24 May 2010 23:49:36 +0000 chdot 7360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"As far as I can tell, the blokes on the forum worry far more about what they look like!"</p> <p>Oh - you mean like this -</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4636189017" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/4636189017</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7358 Mon, 24 May 2010 23:31:45 +0000 Min 7358@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Must be our time of month. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=834#post-7353 Mon, 24 May 2010 23:10:01 +0000 Dave 7353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>ps. the other day I bought new cycling shorts to replace my old ones, which had three years of daily grime but were quite serviceable, so must be on cosmetic grounds only. Scandal! ;-) </p>