http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Plan to recreate "famous ‘Muenster’ photo" en Mon, 18 May 2026 21:01:29 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104690 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:40:10 +0000 neddie 104690@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think it would be nice to replicate the Muenster photos somewhere in Edinburgh.</p> <p>It brings it home, makes it feel local, and would be further publicity for cycling in Edinburgh.</p> <p>When people see pics from Oz, London, etc, there is a disconnect. <em>That's not really us, thats them down under/down in the big smoke... </em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104688 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:33:52 +0000 steveo 104688@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dunno, when Murrayfield empties after an international you can see the power pedestrians can exert on traffic when they try. </p> <p>I got annoyed when the trambles put a big concrete sign post on Morrison st where it gets narrow. That must be one of the busiest stretches of pavement come five o'clock and its already narrow enough without half of the pavement taken over. </p> <p>Wasn't the London underground built to relive pedestrian congestion? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104674 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:34:36 +0000 gembo 104674@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>69 people on a bus with their own folding bikes, mitt be a solution...? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104673 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:31:41 +0000 wingpig 104673@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"...peders just aren't organised enough to get things changed..."</em></blockquote></p> <p>Any time a set of traffic lights breaks the inability of pedestrians to unite and force traffic to allow them to cross is highlighted. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104670 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:07:33 +0000 gembo 104670@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A lot of them can't even walk in a straight line </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104669 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:04:06 +0000 chdot 104669@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9707">Other thread</a></p> <p>But that graphic isn't about Edinburgh. </p> <p>Anyway Min is highlighting the point that not enough 'roadspace' is allocated to pedestrians. </p> <p>Unlike bicyclers, peders just aren't organised enough to get things changed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104668 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:56:07 +0000 gembo 104668@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Min not according to the graph, walkers plummeting I mean the graph on the other string </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104667 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:55:00 +0000 Min 104667@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gembo, what about congestion on the pavements? I find most pavements far more congested than roads, particularly since pedestrians greatly outnumber motorised traffic and pavements are so incredibly narrow. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104664 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:51:27 +0000 Min 104664@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The graphic certainly suggests very strongly that cyclists cause congestion and should all get the bus instead but it is nonsense for the reasons Mr Pig and chdot give. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104663 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:50:35 +0000 gembo 104663@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes wp and chD I take your point but my reflection is that your argument is a little bit like why people would choose cars rather than the bus. Takes me where I want to go.</p> <p>We all use bikes to get through congestion but somedays roads quite congested with bikes? I think this is good and I will continue to cycle for fitness and time but still feel one bus carrying 69 people to central point where they all then walk to their individual destinations is better for congestion than 69 cyclists, sorry to go on...If I ruled the world, no cars, 69 people on the bus but if don't like the bus, get a bike?</p> <p>This train of thought implanted in my brain by the photographs </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104661 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:35:11 +0000 chdot 104661@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wp +1</p> <p>Also 69 different destinations - not along same route. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104660 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:30:10 +0000 wingpig 104660@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>...but the bus can't break up into 69 discrete modules to flow through obstructions... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104654 Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:01:40 +0000 gembo 104654@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One issue I have with this is that one bus carrying 69 people might be better for congestion than 69 cyclists? Not better for the planet etc. but possibly better for congestion, flame me now I am not a troll honest </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-104642 Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:56:16 +0000 chdot 104642@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Canberra version -</p> <p><a href="http://the-riotact.com/the-muenster-photo-remade-in-canberra-how-much-space-do-those-cars-need/82745" rel="nofollow">http://the-riotact.com/the-muenster-photo-remade-in-canberra-how-much-space-do-those-cars-need/82745</a></p> <p>BUT might have originated in London in 1969 -</p> <p><a href="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AkCPRALCEAAt3KC.jpg"><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AkCPRALCEAAt3KC.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/grescoe/status/312648249657921536" rel="nofollow">https://mobile.twitter.com/grescoe/status/312648249657921536</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-83810 Fri, 07 Sep 2012 10:56:09 +0000 crowriver 83810@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cb, I've been in Münster, it's great. Hire a bike and the bike paths are just fantastic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-83793 Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:30:44 +0000 cb 83793@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Didn't realise that photo was from Muenster. I'm going there next month for a couple of days.</p> <p><a href="http://www.muenster.de/stadt/tourismus/en/city-of-bikes.html">Germany's bicycle capitial</a> apparantly.</p> <p>I shall contemplate the variety of different vehicular sizes during my visit. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-83772 Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:21:40 +0000 chdot 83772@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think the main point is to show an Australian context rather than a European one. Also there will be moving images which will be more difficult to realise -</p> <p>"<br /> In addition to capturing a single representative image, we will be utilising time lapse photography and other images to create a short film that shows the process of getting people and vehicles in place and illustrates the time requirements to move vehicles and, more importantly, people through our cities.<br /> " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-83767 Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:11:16 +0000 gembo 83767@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does show space taken up by 69 bikes in peloton is much smaller than 69 cars in a jam? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-83765 Fri, 07 Sep 2012 08:08:34 +0000 crowriver 83765@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why? Just use the original... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8370#post-83762 Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:52:59 +0000 chdot 83762@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.pozible.com/cache/project/8424_560_366.jpg?1347000790"><img src="http://www.pozible.com/cache/project/8424_560_366.jpg?1347000790"></a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pozible.com/index.php/archive/index/8424/description/0/0" rel="nofollow">http://www.pozible.com/index.php/archive/index/8424/description/0/0</a> </p>