http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Shared use - "Walkability" en Mon, 01 Jun 2026 01:29:15 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88217 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:49:06 +0000 lionfish 88217@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The original blog link is irritating: Who on earth treats footpaths as 'roads' when they're on foot??! (Also I want to walk on the water side of the path so I can look for moorhens!).</p> <p>The spokes leaflet is nice - although can be summarised "be sensible". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88206 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:18:45 +0000 Morningsider 88206@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As if by magic - SPOKES publish a leaflet on this very topic today:</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1210-Users_for-web_SpWeb.v2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/1210-Users_for-web_SpWeb.v2.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88204 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:13:52 +0000 sallyhinch 88204@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's undoubtedly irrelevant, but the blog is written by a she rather than a he ... and from the context I'd guess an American. Not that it affects the tone of the piece - but I have found in America that cyclists are much more likely to simply say 'on your left' and blast past you when you're on foot - something I really loathe. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88203 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:58:28 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 88203@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thing is, he tries to make out that shared use paths are just like roads. When they're not. There are no designated sides, or yellow lines, or lights (okay, there <em>are</em> some lights, but as a ped there's no obligation to obey them, and you don't find queues of single file pedestrians walking down the paths and stopping to wait in that line at any lights).</p> <p>I can sort of see what he's getting at, but roads and paths are fundamentally different, and I'd have no desire to see paths become pseudo-roads.</p> <p>Cycle sensibly; walk sensibly, the rest is mere detail (accounting for the fact that everyone is human once in a while). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88196 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:44:15 +0000 Min 88196@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I do agree with some of the points, some pedestrians behave in a way that they would never behave on a road and would never expect cyclists to behave on a road either, weaving around randomly, stopping for a group chat and blocking the path, allowing dogs to run amok etc. But I don't like the ranty tone and the "get out of my way" attitude which yes, is rather familiar somehow.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88189 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:19:16 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 88189@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmmmm.</p> <p>Had the same thoughts as crowriver. Interesting that he thinks everyone on the path should act in a way that makes it quick and easy for a cyclist to get about; which really does mirror the motorist view that bikes are 'in the way' of it being quick and easy to get about.</p> <p>He <em>does</em> pick up on stupid things that cyclists do, but I don't like the overall tone to be honest. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88186 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:08:13 +0000 DaveC 88186@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sometimes peds can be frustrating, walking in the middle of a dual use path or wondering around left and right, no lights, headphones in.</p> <p>On the cycle up Candlemaker Row this morning I got to within 10m of the top when a ped walked out onto the road - left to right. I saw him coming but did give a loud shout as I passed the him saying 'fool'! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88175 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:13:38 +0000 crowriver 88175@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A lot of what he/she complains about could be solved by cycling a bit more safely and ringing of the bell.</p> <p>Ironic that his/her attitude echoes that of drivers to cyclists... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8694#post-88116 Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:45:11 +0000 Roibeard 88116@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks like the "bicyclists" [1] are advocating training for those pesky pedestrians who are erratic, unpredictable and simply don't know the rules of the path. This "walkability" training would meant that they won't pose a danger to themselves and other, faster, path users.</p> <p>Three parts, beginning with the <a href="http://echoesofcriticalthought.wordpress.com/2012/09/25/shared-path-chronicles-pt1/">rules</a>. But worth following to part 3 for the full argument.</p> <p>Robert</p> <p>[1] I object, I'm pretty certain I'm a "heterocyclist" if anything, simply due to the variety of different bikes I ride! </p>