http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Today's rubbish walking en Tue, 19 May 2026 20:40:51 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-369185 Thu, 06 Jul 2023 22:36:56 +0000 the canuck 369185@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's an interesting application of a non-existant law. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-369177 Thu, 06 Jul 2023 15:07:40 +0000 CocoShepherd 369177@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Two runnists on the NEPN this morning doing their best to take up the full width of the path. Approaching them from behind I stopped pedalling to slow down as I passed and used my stupid loud rear hub to alert them to my presence. They refused to move over to let me through, instead chirping that I should have a bell, despite hearing the hub and looking round to see that someone was there. FML. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-369010 Thu, 29 Jun 2023 22:35:34 +0000 gembo 369010@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Runners are faster over the aqueduct we should defer. Runners should not run down the white line on the meadows path That is a dick move </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-369009 Thu, 29 Jun 2023 20:50:58 +0000 Greenroofer 369009@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@jdp - people who are running are an interesting group of towpath users. Many of them travel nearly as fast as people on bikes, but seem to think they are pedestrians. Most I've seen don't appear to slow down on the blind bridges (or, as in your example, make their presence known). On the aqueduct a majority seem to expect to have priority over everyone, and to keep running past people walking, and to be given way to.</p> <p>I don't know if I think that's right or not. Where does someone's who's running sit on the hierarchy of vulnerability: are they on the same level as me on a bike, or are they between me and the people who are walking? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-368997 Thu, 29 Jun 2023 10:30:42 +0000 jdanielp 368997@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I couldn't find and can't be bothered starting a today's rubbish running thread so this will have to do - I slowed down and rang my bell before passing under the canal bridge between Hermiston House Road and Gogar Station Road, but was startled by a runner who came hurtling towards me from the other direction when I was half-way through, resulting in me emergency braking and shouting involuntary. Luckily we managed not to collide and nobody ended up in the water either, somehow, but it was a fairly close call. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-320644 Sun, 12 Jan 2020 00:04:01 +0000 algo 320644@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tonight cycling along George Street, as I stopped at one of the pedestrian crossings to allow some pedestrians to cross, one member of the group decided to run over and shout that cyclists have to stop and obey the rules of the road. This was ironic given I was stationary before he even started shouting and running over to me, and yet the car that passed us both was very much in motion. All passed cheerily enough - something must have imparted some @gembo zen at some point today... potentially the virtually unblemished Boardman CX comp (yes really) I picked up donated to Bikes For Refugees from a generous Leither </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297495 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:16:08 +0000 algo 297495@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Murun Buchstansang - almost a spot then :-) It was a childish spat really - he claimed I I didn't indicate, I claimed I did... handbags etc... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297494 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:08:11 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 297494@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@algo Think I passed you then on Bruntsfield Place. Could hear the raised voices and your bike but the ped was doing a good impression of a ninja, couldn’t see them at all. Peds like that are a nightmare, think a moment’s glance a foot from the kerb absolves them of all further care or attention. Given the number of cars who turn without any indication, it amazes me they survive long enough to get up in cyclists’ grills... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297483 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:35:55 +0000 jdanielp 297483@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Around here it's hoods up and heads down<br /> Got it the wrong way around</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297482 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:28:45 +0000 algo 297482@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks @Nelly, I appreciate the empathy. I'm annoyed with myself because I fell into the classic trap of thinking stopping to explain will do anything other than make everything much worse and more shouty. (In this case explain that one handed braking and slow speed turning is pretty tricky at best, and definitely foolhardy on a major road). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297480 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:14:27 +0000 Nelly 297480@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@algo it seems to happen a lot, particularly at this time of year.</p> <p>I sometimes think its because people have hoods up, quickly look/listen to ensure no car coming but miss us.</p> <p>I almost took out a wee wummin the other day (in the frost) turning off Grange Road - similar to you, gave me daggers despite the fact I had signalled well ahead of the turn. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297479 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:05:01 +0000 algo 297479@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>got an earful for turning left without indicating from Bruntsfield Place onto Bruntsfield Terrace. Pedestrian about to cross the road didn't see my indication and so walked out aggressively, chastising me for putting my child in danger. I tried to explain that it's not possible to turn with only one hand, but he just ranted further.</p> <p>The reason this upsets me is that it was typical reactionary anti-cyclist behaviour - waiting on Bruntsfield place for pedestrians about to cross is completely infeasible due to the traffic potentially behind you - ordinarily, in other safer places I often stop and wait. So now unfortunately despite my attempts to remain calm and explain, I'm afraid I've just cemented his view that we are all reckless law-breakers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297470 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 15:50:20 +0000 Trixie 297470@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In a totally slapstick moment, a chap carrying scaffolding poles along the pavement on Duncan St nearly wiped me out by turning himself and his load 90 degrees without checking the road was clear. I'd anticipated he might do it, luckily. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297223 Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:44:40 +0000 ejstubbs 297223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I rather suspect that he <em>did</em> hear the siren, but just DGAF. Or at least thought "I'll be across before it gets here", which is hardly the point. All the semi-armoured motor vehicles just stopped while the ambulance went by. The nice soft, squishy pedestrian didn't.</p> <p>Funny how you can (or think you can) judge a person's demeanour from the way they walk... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297218 Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:12:10 +0000 Trixie 297218@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have to wonder what racket he was listening to that a siren didn't cut through it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297210 Fri, 07 Dec 2018 09:20:36 +0000 I were right about that saddle 297210@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ejstubbs</p> <p>Spend some time at the Lady Road/Craigmillar Park junction. That's where ERI ambulances turn right for the Southside.</p> <p>You ain't seen nuthin' yet bro. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297209 Fri, 07 Dec 2018 09:17:00 +0000 ejstubbs 297209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Haymarket is a great place to spot twuntish road users of all flavours. You could probably tick most of them off in your eye-spy book (anyone else remember them?) in a couple of hours.</p> <p>Yesterday, while waiting for a tram, I became aware of the siren of an emergency vehicle approaching along Haymarket Terrace from the west. At the same time, a trendy dude wearing big red headphones started to cross at the Haymarket Yards lights in a fashionably laid-back, no-hurry manner. The siren switched from slow to fast* and source - an ambulance - became visible, passing the stopped traffic on the wrong side of the road. Still Master Switched-On-Tunes continued his leisurely saunter across the road in front of it. Even when the ambulance driver gave him a big dose of his (admirably strident) horn, Mr Too-Cool-For-School did not appear to make any attempt to hasten his pace.</p> <p>I'm not sure he was actually aware of the ambulance's presence even when it was practically on top of him. If he was, he was an utterly selfish, arrogant idiot. If he wasn't then he was just an idiot.</p> <p><em>* Thanks to whoever posted that video of the emergency response driver the other week, I now know that little bit more about the tools that such drivers have at their disposal!</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297172 Thu, 06 Dec 2018 15:13:17 +0000 davidsonsdave 297172@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The cycle lane at Haymarket is bad enough but yesterday in the rain, an older lady, heading towards town who was cutting across the taxi drop-off <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9459189,-3.2175607,3a,27.5y,235.27h,87.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssrhNrsVQHiyLcfRhFGxh3g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192">here</a> swung a large shopping bag out into the bike lane as I approached. Bit like someone crossing on a red man and remonstrating with a driver going through a green. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-297098 Wed, 05 Dec 2018 19:23:18 +0000 I were right about that saddle 297098@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Walked in and out of town today. Had forgotten just how rubbish it is. Cars flying around at forty, gutters all full of filthy water getting sloshed onto the unwary. Pavements way too narrow. Just nasty. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=8#post-294110 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:24:02 +0000 gembo 294110@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ Steveo - Hulk </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294079 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:12:55 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 294079@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In my experience I find the majority of people of the Blackhall path like you ringing a bell. I always give them a wave or thank you too.</p> <p>Majority of people are decent :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294071 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:35:38 +0000 fimm 294071@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>Why haven't you got a bell?</em>"<br /> "I have (ding ding) I just prefer to talk politely to people..." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294067 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:15:09 +0000 steveo 294067@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>They are just humans with wives and children</em></p> <p>Puny Humans.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294066 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:06:56 +0000 EdinburghCycleCam 294066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@stilskin "Or you might get "Why haven't you got a bell?""<br /> Oh yes, I've had that plenty of times, even when politely saying "excuse me" while passing at walking pace. Basically, we can't win. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294050 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:58:02 +0000 gembo 294050@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@trixie, thanks for spotting that, how does it go again.....</p> <p>Two cyclists did battle<br /> For the good of all mankind?</p> <p>(OK Scientists not Cyclists) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294046 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 22:20:34 +0000 Trixie 294046@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Dix points for the Flaming Lips reference. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294040 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:56:50 +0000 gembo 294040@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cuh mon Steveo. Don't give up with people. They are just humans with wives and children </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294036 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:37:29 +0000 steveo 294036@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I give up with people. I still slow down but honestly I can see why some folk just don't. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294034 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:30:10 +0000 stiltskin 294034@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>This is why I never use my bell, and say "excuse me" if the path is completely blocked by people walking side by side. In my experience, if I use my bell then I give them a fright, get sworn at, or told to "calm down, it's a shared path</em></p> <p>Or you might get "Why haven't you got a bell?" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8717&page=7#post-294025 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:40:04 +0000 gembo 294025@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like a cheery bell ring ring and then I follow up with a cheery I am just passing you on the left hand side or right hand side with a smile and this more often than not gets a thank you from the peds or dog walkers. </p> <p>Once on to the roads dealing with same people now in their cars it is a very different scenario. </p>