http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Hear it on the radio.... en Thu, 21 May 2026 23:45:19 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89401 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:28:16 +0000 fimm 89401@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anecdata time - two of the closest calls I've had on the bike have involved cars turning right. (Both at the same junction, incidentally, but I don't think that tells you anything other than I go past that junction quite a lot...) Both classic SMIDSYs. One was in broad daylight, and involved a car turning into the junction, and the other was in the dark involving a car coming out of the junction. I <em>hate</em> it when people turn right parallel with you. </p> <p>Interesting that the advice for cyclists is "light or reflective" clothing, not high-vis. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89384 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:44:35 +0000 steveo 89384@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Worst thing about the driving-over-a-cyclist-to-turn-right hook is when the driver at the front of a queue goes because the bike is far enough up the road that it is safe, but then the sheep behind him go. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89378 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:28:29 +0000 Min 89378@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>PS-I'm not saying an anti-left hooking campaign wouldn't be a good thing too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89376 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:22:09 +0000 Min 89376@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Quite a lot of attention is already given to left hooking though whereas none to the driving-over-a-cyclist-to-turn-right hook. I find these more frightening since there is very little you can do to avoid them and every driver who wants to turn right at a junction you are crossing is a potential risk. I wonder if anyone really will look at statistics to see if the campaign makes a difference? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89375 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:16:01 +0000 DaveC 89375@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@amir which is why in my head I was expecting 'when turning left' not 'when turning right'. I guess in the dark with some people not used to driving in the dark yet, they glance for a car headlight and if non turn right, straight into the path of a cyclist. I wonder if its time I got my 21Watt HID lamp out? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89374 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:03:30 +0000 amir 89374@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Left turning motorists are just as much a hazard in my experience. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89373 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:10:33 +0000 slowcoach 89373@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The same message is at <a href="http://www.streetsaheadedinburgh.org.uk/info/13/campaigns/76/drive_safe_cycle_safe_october_campaign/2" rel="nofollow">http://www.streetsaheadedinburgh.org.uk/info/13/campaigns/76/drive_safe_cycle_safe_october_campaign/2</a><br /> The leaflet can be downloaded: <a href="http://www.streetsaheadedinburgh.org.uk/download/downloads/id/56/cyclist_and_driver_leaflet" rel="nofollow">http://www.streetsaheadedinburgh.org.uk/download/downloads/id/56/cyclist_and_driver_leaflet</a></p> <p>There will be statistics available to show if right-turning cars are (or are not) involved in a high proportion of cycle collisions locally and/or nationally.<br /> Evaluation has been a big theme lately in road safety campaigning, so perhaps there will be surveys to find out how many drivers/cyclists hear the message/pay any attention to it, followed up by checking the accident statistics to see if there is a reduction in the proportion of injuries caused by right-turning cars? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89368 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:43:00 +0000 lionfish 89368@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@DaveC: With my spokes mailout I received an A5 leaflet thing (I think by streets ahead). On one side it said cyclists should use lights and wear bright things, and on the other it said drivers should be careful when turning right (either on to or off roads).</p> <p>Interesting they're paying for radio adverts too - I'm not completely convinced of their effectiveness compared to (for instance) reducing speeds to 20mph on roads in the city. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89367 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:27:13 +0000 AKen 89367@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I saw a bill-sticker pasting up a huge poster with much the same message at the shops on Calder Road yesterday morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8791#post-89365 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:24:43 +0000 DaveC 89365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>... on Forth One this morning. An advert asking drivers turning right (I think??) to watch our for cyclists coming from the opposite direction. I think it was paid for by Streets Ahead? I was in the shower and not really paying attention and when I heard I I was imagining drivers turning left, cutting up cyclists, but they did say Turning Right, unless I mis heard it. </p>