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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: &#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 02:46:24 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>chdot on "&#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=881#post-8004</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;if bike shops / manufacturers are genuinely failing 50% of their customer base&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't think &#34;fail&#34; is the right word. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Clearly some manufacturers/retailers are better than others. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There is also a difference between customer base and potential customers. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There can't be many bike shops (in the world) where 50% of the customers are female - unless they are very deliberately catering for women. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In general people who ride bikes are more likely to be male. Edinburgh is unusual - in many ways- seeing a high percentage of general bike riders being women is one of them. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In the past a lot of bike shops weren't particularly friendly unless you were 'their sort of cyclist' - usually a road racer. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It would be good if bike shops had more female staff - mechanics and sales. But I suspect that (for many reasons) girls/women don't apply.
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<title>Dave on "&#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What I'd love to understand is, if bike shops / manufacturers are genuinely failing 50% of their customer base, it would seem like there is money on the table for new manufacturers/bike shops to step in with a better offering, or for one of the existing ones to sieze a chunk of this market.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Why haven't they?
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<title>chdot on "&#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Women in the Bike Industry, Who is to Blame?&#34; « Bike Shop Girl - &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://bit.ly/daF9p2&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://bit.ly/daF9p2&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>recombodna on "&#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=881#post-7880</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think bike shops treat everyone like that male or female!
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<title>ravenbait on "&#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Still get treated like dumb airheads with half a clue by a significant number of shop staff, though. I had to be dragged out of a shop-you-have-heard-of by a mate last year before I savaged the male salesperson like a rabid dog for being patronising.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sam
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<title>Min on "&#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=881#post-7847</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 13:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Things have improved a lot in the last 10-15 years. Cycling magazines now have pictures of women in with their clothes on AND zipped up. I think in the mainstream press though, women sports stars still have to get their kit off to get any acknowledgement  of their existance.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(I'm still finding my posts are vanishing off the edge of the box?)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ADMIN NOTE - fixed line end 'issue', but can't figure what's causing it.
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<title>chdot on "&#34;If This Is Women’s Cycling, Include Me Out&#34;"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=881#post-7844</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 11:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;That's the title of the &#60;a href=&#34;http://jacquiephelan.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/if-this-is-womens-cycling-include-me-out/&#34;&#62;latest post&#60;/a&#62; on the unique &#60;a href=&#34;http://jacquiephelan.com&#34;&#62;Jacquie Phelan's blog&#60;/a&#62;.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anyone who's ever come across her, at races, in print or in person (she's been to Scotland/Edinburgh) knows that she is passionate about cycling - and getting more people to ride. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.vimeo.com/1124788&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.vimeo.com/1124788&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bdsXCVyfUI&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bdsXCVyfUI&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br /&#62;
&#60;center&#62;.&#60;/center&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not only can she ride, (not quite as fast as when she was a pioneering Mountain Bike pro), she can write. But being past several 'certain ages' (and of course not male) her opinions can be sidelined.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In spite of people like her, the bike industry still generally doesn't (even begin to) understand that on one hand women want to be treated as people, but that for biological/anatomical/social reasons may have different requirements.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Jacquie's post links to another which picks up on a &#34;reader's comment&#34; - &#34;&#60;a href=&#34;http://bikehugger.com/2010/05/its-womens-fault.html&#34;&#62;a lot of women walk in not knowing what they want, they need to do research and ask the right questions&#60;/a&#62;”.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;center&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.flickr.com/photos/13856843@N08/1576530931/&#34;&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/1576530931_cab1234491.jpg&#34; alt=&#34;Mtb shopping cartoon by Greta Snider &#34; /&#62;&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Cartoon by &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.heatsignature.com/bio.html&#34;&#62;Greta Snider&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/center&#62;
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